Add this nice looking and nicely made bike to the list of new '08’s we’ve seen. The 2008 Quintana Roo Lucero Ti. The exciting about this bike is it uses the same geometry, stack and reach as QR’s Kilo and Tequilo- the steep 78.5 degree seat tube and lowish head tubes:
the chainstays look a little long to me. Any idea how long they actually are?
What brand bike is that again? I can’t tell from looking at the pictures of the frame.
Replaceable rear dropouts?
Tom, send it to me, ill make sure its legit.
I don’t even see dropouts… but that frame is begging for Blackwell wheels and their fluorescent-yellow logos!
A nice looking bike. Apart from a few changes in graphics it looks a lot like my 2007 carbon Lucero. Which brings me to my question. I don’t know the first thing about the bike industry, so maybe someone can explain why QR would do a Ti version of an existing carbon frame bike? Is the Ti version expected to be any of cheaper, stiffer, faster, more comfortable, etc. than the carbon version? Or is it just that Ti appeals to some people and carbon fiber to others?
Replaceable rear dropouts?
Have to be… unless the design secret of the new QR Lucero Ti is that it doesn’t require a rear wheel! Holy cow, is this bike powered by FCT (flying carpet technology)!?
How is it different from the Blade? Lower headtube?
A couple of questions/notes:
- are those tubes as beefy as they appear? That top tube appears to be quite large.
- the seatpost isn’t an integrated aeropost any longer? (it appears to be a regular seatpost collar at the top of the seat tube)
- they still haven’t found a way to integrate the internal cabling through the top tube and behind the headset yet? (ala Felt DA style)
- Cool…a steeper angled bike. The only drawback with that tubing is that it appears too big to put couplers on the seat tube and top tube and make it dandy “traveling” bike with that geometry? Darn…getting closer anyway…
If you look at the last picture, it appears that the bike uses an aeropost. At least it seems like you can see more than simply a round hole.
That is very nice looking as their aren’t too many true tri geometry aero Ti bikes out there. I agree with others on several points though: about 1 too many Logos (the top tube one mostly), tubes (esp headtube) seem pretty fat and hence not very aero (likely needed for strength with the thin Ti walls needed to keep the weight low).
I’ll bet it rides great though!
Tom,
Since you seem to have a bit of advance info…any idea if the carbon 2008 QR bikes will also be featuring the updated (Kilo/Tequilo) geometry?
Thanks,
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how much??
Any estimate of date this model can be purchased? Thanks.
the chainstays look a little long to me. Any idea how long they actually are?
The scourge of 700c wheels on small frames…
It uses an aero seatpost. The “weirdness” you see there is that it has a replaceable seatpost binder, which is not currently installed.
It does have replaceable rear dropouts, which are also not installed. So that is why the frame looks a bit odd…
I think your last statement about some people prefering ti as opposed to other materials is correct. Ti used to be considered the gold standard for durability but in the past few years Efbe engineering tests for impact and fatigue have shonw carbon bikes to be more durable than titanium in most cases. Cervelo in particular along with other carbon fiber bike brands have lead the way in changing the way we think of bike durability and proven that carbon is an incredibly impact and fatigue resistant material.
That said, there is a still a (shrinking) culture of people who feel carbon fiber needs to be somehow “proven”. I really think that is an antiquated perspective considering the incredible success of carbon with so many Ironman wins, Tour de France wins and more importantly, happy MOP’ers like you and I who own the bikes and have good ownership experiences with them.
with all of that said, what is the purpose of producing a bike to appeal to an even smaller mass of people that are still clinging onto Ti? triathlon is already a microcosim in the bike industry…while it’s a growing market, it’s a small and specific one nonetheless. i don’t understand why they would not continue to champion carbon fiber, as opposed to almost retract to a material that is proven to not be as strong/fast/light/etc. just curious–i like the bike, sans logos, but i do wonder the marketing motive behind it. maybe there is something QR knows that the rest of us don’t.
if this is true than the Ti version should sell for less than a comparable Carbon frame right.