http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/30/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/cdc-confirms-first-ebola-case-diagnosed-us
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Like I said, anybody from these western African nations where this is an issue should have their ability to enter this country revoked. If you are a US citizen trying to return here, you should be quarantined before readmission.
This could have all been prevented if we eradicated the problem via firebombing each and ever village, town or country that this popped up in. Now it is here, and it will continue to grow.
Thanks Obama.
Not good. This will get out of hand.
Not good. This will get out of hand.
+1. I guess that we better stockpile groceries.
Obama got involved. Once that happened, it was inevitable. Most likely Bush’s fault.
I was thinking that Putin is probably behind this…
You ever see the movie the Crazies?
I was thinking that Putin is probably behind this…
I was thinking Ben Greenfield. Probably some new diet…the Ebola diet.
Not good. This will get out of hand.
I predict not. U.S. public health is awfully good relative to most of Africa. And Ebola isn’t that contagious. Even given that the actual transmission rates in African seem to be significantly exceeding the predicted rates.
Like I said, anybody from these western African nations where this is an issue should have their ability to enter this country revoked. If you are a US citizen trying to return here, you should be quarantined before readmission.
This could have all been prevented if we eradicated the problem via firebombing each and ever village, town or country that this popped up in. Now it is here, and it will continue to grow.
Thanks Obama.
West African countries would have to take cuts ahead of Florida and Arizon in the “let’s firebomb them” line. I’d never imagine you as supporting affirmative action.
Not good. This will get out of hand.
I predict not. U.S. public health is awfully good relative to most of Africa. And Ebola isn’t that contagious. Even given that the actual transmission rates in African seem to be significantly exceeding the predicted rates.
This. Hell, West Nile and Bird Flu are far more contagious and neither “got out of hand” in the U.S.
Even the worst cases of flu epidemics in the U.S. as pretty well contained.
Hey, you are ruining my paranoid xenophobe redneck character meme.
Not good. This will get out of hand.
I predict not. U.S. public health is awfully good relative to most of Africa. And Ebola isn’t that contagious. Even given that the actual transmission rates in African seem to be significantly exceeding the predicted rates.
It looks like Ebola has the same transmission mechanism as HIV without the six month wait to test positive.
I think many western countries, including the USA, can effectively manage thru something like this. However, there are billions of people who live in countries that are less likely to be able to effectively navigate a successful outcome. As the disease spreads to more places, I am concerned that the sheer number of unmanageable places will result in ever increasing intensity of “problem areas”. We will be ok in the USA but the less-developed/over-populated/poorer areas of the world may see devastating losses. I hope I’m wrong.
It looks like Ebola has the same transmission mechanism as HIV without the six month wait to test positive.
I think it’s significantly different in a few ways:
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HIV only exists in humans (afaik). Ebola exists in bats, monkeys, gorillas, purcupines, and others. So handling the meat from those animals (or just picking up roadkill) is a possible transmission vector. I wonder if the U.S. wild animal population could be infected? That’d be bad.
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HIV is infectious when there are no symptoms. And, after the initial mild-flu-like response there can be no symptoms for years. Ebola is not infectious until there are symptoms (2-21 days). And when you have symptoms, you definitely know it pretty quick.
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Ebola seems a little more easy to transmit. HIV transmission requires open wounds, needle injection, anal tears during homosexual sex, etc. Ebola seems a bit more infectious than that. It’ll pass through mucus membranes. So you can get it by touch an surface someone sneezed on, then rubbing your eyes. (I presume from reading the literature). I don’t think that happens with HIV.
That’s pretty different, I think. 1, 3 make it more insidious than HIV, but 2) makes it much more manageable from a public health standpoint. Easier to identify and isolate people.
Yeah, I knew some things about #2 and #3, but I forgot about the potential for animal transmission and #1. I don’t know what we’ll do if the days of free-wheeling roadkill pickup are behind us.
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I practiced my baseball bat and chainsaw skills tonight in preparation for the zombie apocalypse. Realized I do need to upgrade to a gas powered saw if I want t extend my safety perimeter.
Glad I got that crossbow last year.
I wondered how long it would take someone to remember. I can’t say that I expected from his biggest fan.
On MSNBC’s Hardball tonight, host Chris Matthews argued with Obamacare architect Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel about President Obama saying it was “unlikely” that an Ebola case would strike the U.S.
“Obama said it was unlikely. It has happened. It’s here,” Matthews said.
Dr. Emanuel said there is some “fear mongering” going on here, but Matthews said he was just quoting the president and stating facts. Here’s a bit of the argument that lasted nearly ten minutes:
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CHRIS MATTHEWS: I’m just trying to follow the logic here. Everybody’s being told, don’t worry unless they have the infectious symptoms, you can see them, that you don’t have to worry about catching them. Yet, this guy picked up the disease apparently from somebody who did not have the infectious symptoms.
DR. EZEKIEL EMANUEL: Again, don’t hypothesize because we just don’t know. We have no idea what he did or didn’t do and how he got it. I’m sure that’s going to be vital information to try to understand the transmission, but the idea that there’s going to be a widespread outbreak here, I think is just, again, it’s a bit of fear mongering. We have a single case. This is not a big, widespread –
MATTHEWS: Yeah, yeah, but I’m just going back to the president’s statement, doctor, and that is that the president said it would be unlikely if we had a case in this country. Unlikely to even have one case. You want to see the tape again?
EMANUEL: He said there wouldn’t be an Ebola outbreak.
MATTHEWS: No, and in the second part of his sentence he said in the unlikely case someone brings it here. In the unlikely case someone brings it here. Well, they’ve done it. We’re living in the world of the unlikely already. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not fear mongering. I’m stating the facts and I wonder if everybody else is.
EMANUEL: The reason we can be assured here that this isn’t going to be a major outbreak is we have a CDC that can do very good contact tracing. We have a very good health system that takes universal precautions on all patients, with the gloves. And you’re not regularly in contact with people’s bodily fluids the way it is much more common in Liberia. I think those things distinguish it. And I don’t think we should get into a panic because we were reassured it would never be in the United States.
MATTHEWS: No, the president said it was unlikely two weeks ago. Well, it’s not the unlikely, it has happened. It’s here.