You will not see ANY fitness gains from a workout for 4-6 weeks, so relax. The only thing you can do now is screw up your race. 2 week taper is by no means long. Do you want to have a great looking training log, or a good race? Arrive at the race venue fresh and your fitness will shine…keep training and throw that away…
when we talk about half ironman, the taper notion isnt important and having good fitness is much more relevant. racing on tired legs isnt a big issue if the last 2 or 3 days leading up to the race were light. There is definitly some gain and adaptation happening from workouts within a few days so the 4-6 week time frame isnt relevant.
My coaches would beg to disagree with you. In practice, I concur with mine.
More than one way to skin a cat though. I’d much rather be under than overtrained.
Ugh, an all nighter at work followed by a doctors visit as things got worse. look it like 2 non active days in a row (although I hope to run easy tonight, but still not what was planned). Will just hit the workouts I have left and realize I may not knock this out the park. I’ll finish, but not pushing myself to make any preconceived goals. which is probably smart anyway for my first attempt at the distance
You will not see ANY fitness gains from a workout for 4-6 weeks, so relax. The only thing you can do now is screw up your race. 2 week taper is by no means long. Do you want to have a great looking training log, or a good race? Arrive at the race venue fresh and your fitness will shine…keep training and throw that away…
when we talk about half ironman, the taper notion isnt important and having good fitness is much more relevant. racing on tired legs isnt a big issue if the last 2 or 3 days leading up to the race were light. There is definitly some gain and adaptation happening from workouts within a few days so the 4-6 week time frame isnt relevant.
My coaches would beg to disagree with you. In practice, I concur with mine.
More than one way to skin a cat though. I’d much rather be under than overtrained.
And so you shall remain.
LOL! Seems they’ve coached more IM Kona winners than any of you. Want success, or theory? Carry on…
my impression, if they are good coach as you mention, you most likely misunderstood what they try to explain to you.
I dont know any coach that would tell a athlete it takes 4-6 weeks to get adaptation from workouts. Never work that way and never heard a coach saying this. We are a small community and talk to each other a lot…i highly doubt it s the case.
my impression, if they are good coach as you mention, you most likely misunderstood what they try to explain to you.
I dont know any coach that would tell a athlete it takes 4-6 weeks to get adaptation from workouts. Never work that way and never heard a coach saying this. We are a small community and talk to each other a lot…i highly doubt it s the case.
Read the ENTIRE post. 4-6 weeks to achieve AEROBIC benefits. The OP specifically mentioned LONG workouts, which are aerobic in nature. 2 weeks will in no way translate to establishing maximum aerobic facilities. Shorter and more intense workouts will have different uses and timeframes as stated and have a purpose, but a good taper would include them anyway.
“A 2-wk taper during which training volume is exponentially reduced by 41–60% without altering training intensity or frequency appears to be the most efficient strategy to maximize performance gains.”
Neither one of them suggest that you won’t ‘see ANY fitness gains from a workout for 4-6 weeks’. In fact, quite the opposite. The first link you posted suggests that you should start your run taper 2-weeks out and your bike 1-week out for the OP’s distance. The second is scant on details but suggests starting a taper 2 weeks out. All of this assumes a high training load going in to that 2 weeks, which is NOT what the OP is suggesting.
Yeah, my load over the last week’s should have been higher, but ended up in the 10 hour range. I’m certainly not overtrained or physically “tired” at the moment (although not able to go 100% due to nagging sickness).
I’d like 2 more 3 hour bike rides. I’d like 2 more long runs. For confidence if anything. Swimming is where it is. I can very comfortably keep a MOP pace, and I don’t see 3 weeks knocking me down from 1:45 pace to anything much better, so I’ll just maintain. I feel like a 2 hour run 12 days out and a 3 hour bike ~9 days out is going to leave me super tired on race day. But I also don’t have the experience.