Fckh8

So here’s a video of some young girls dropping F-bombs in the name of “feminism…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHYzYn3WZw&list=UU2Uhn0GOuErIBhOA3T79Mkg

Couple of points.

They mention something about men with “bad grades (Cs)” getting paid *the same *as women who get As in college. Is this what it’s come to?

First of all, I don’t know if they are talking fresh graduates getting their first job. If so, these are usually entry level jobs where the pay is basically fixed and you just need a degree.

Secondly, do employers even look at grades? I know I wouldn’t (not that I’m hire college grads to come sniff gas fumes with me).

If they aren’t talking specifically about new grads then where the fuck do they come up with this (thin air)?

And then the oft repeated 1 in 5 women are raped. Bitch, please. This has been debunked since the 80s. And who would want to rape that fat cow redhead at the end?

re: Grades

When I was retiring from the Marine Corps, pretty much every company I applied to required my college GPA on the application. Whether or not they even looked at it I don’t know, but my guess was the GPA is used a first line filter for resumes, below a 3.0 doesn’t get a call??

I think everything you just wrote is wrong.

I think everything you just wrote is wrong.

Care to elaborate?

…but my guess was the GPA is used a first line filter for resumes, below a 3.0 doesn’t get a call??

Below a 3.0 for women, 2.0 for men.

And one more thing, calling a dude “girly” is an insult in the same way as calling a girl “manly”.

It’s an insult to an individual, not an entire gender.

There is a great article going over each one of these stats in detail (of course can’t find it when i need it) and they are just flat out lies. Here is another article discussing some of these stats:

http://time.com/3222543/5-feminist-myths-that-will-not-die/

I had to take a gender studies class during grad school for poli sci and most of the class was looking at the stats behind some of these issues. Assuming we stick to the US every fact in that video is 100% crap, and i mean way off the mark. In fact we noticed that many women are compensated at a higher rate than men of the same educational and work background. Even the die hard liberal prof had to laugh at some of the feminism videos and stats we were researching.

Seriously, the way those stats were “debunked” is worse than the way the stats were “compiled”.

Seriously, the way those stats were “debunked” is worse than the way the stats were “compiled”.

Care to explain why?

Spot

I love it when a feminist drops the “women are paid less” argument. In my last 4 jobs I have worked for 2 women and 3 have had female CEOs. A little bias towards male supervisors and executives would be a nice change!

The Time article is sort of 4th grade level research but i have seen several studies on each topic from other sources over the years that 100% agree with the time article and challenge every stat in the video. The data can be hard to examine simply because good data is hard to get your hands on as it is expensive and often a price has to be paid. Most free data out there is agenda driven and leads to significant collection error. I was able to see some good data in grad school since the school was willing to pay to have access to well done but expensive studies. These studies suggest that women are in fact compensated at an equal if not higher rate, are by percent in an equal amount of leadership roles (percent of total women in said job field), and the sexual assault stat is just wrong.

The funny thing is that the sexual assault stat is one of the easiest to look up since most cities have open records on all crimes and most have them in nice excel or pdf files. I just checked locally (south Kansas City) and even if you used the most broad definition of sexual Assault you are not even on the same planet as 1 in 5. Now most people will counter that many assaults are not reported, that is true. But statistically than can and is adjusted for, and the number is still nowhere near 1 in 5 will be assaulted unless “assault” include a guy asking a girl out or making comments to her.

re: Grades

When I was retiring from the Marine Corps, pretty much every company I applied to required my college GPA on the application. Whether or not they even looked at it I don’t know, but my guess was the GPA is used a first line filter for resumes, below a 3.0 doesn’t get a call??

I’ve hired probably 300 employees in the last 6yrs, never once have I looked at or even considered grades. I’d say maybe 1/5 resumes I see even has any mention of GPA; either you completed the program or you didn’t. I’m not exactly hiring for McKinsey or Goldman Sachs, but that is my experience.

Seriously, the way those stats were “debunked” is worse than the way the stats were “compiled”.

Care to explain why?

Spot

No. He won’t explain why because he can’t. He’s just shooting bullshit from the hip (and using blanks). He said everything I wrote was “wrong” but gave zero examples as to why. Just like the video, keep repeating the same lies over and over and they eventually become “common knowledge”.

re: Grades

When I was retiring from the Marine Corps, pretty much every company I applied to required my college GPA on the application. Whether or not they even looked at it I don’t know, but my guess was the GPA is used a first line filter for resumes, below a 3.0 doesn’t get a call??

I’ve hired probably 300 employees in the last 6yrs, never once have I looked at or even considered grades. I’d say maybe 1/5 resumes I see even has any mention of GPA; either you completed the program or you didn’t. I’m not exactly hiring for McKinsey or Goldman Sachs, but that is my experience.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/business/in-head-hunting-big-data-may-not-be-such-a-big-deal.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&

Google thinks grades are bullshit.

re: Grades

When I was retiring from the Marine Corps, pretty much every company I applied to required my college GPA on the application. Whether or not they even looked at it I don’t know, but my guess was the GPA is used a first line filter for resumes, below a 3.0 doesn’t get a call??

I’ve hired probably 300 employees in the last 6yrs, never once have I looked at or even considered grades. I’d say maybe 1/5 resumes I see even has any mention of GPA; either you completed the program or you didn’t. I’m not exactly hiring for McKinsey or Goldman Sachs, but that is my experience.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/business/in-head-hunting-big-data-may-not-be-such-a-big-deal.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&

Google thinks grades are bullshit.

I think I understand now… women get better grades (because they blow the professors) but employers factor this in (the inflated female grades) and pay accordingly.

Am I getting close?

Unfortunately when a lot of these stats are reported, its difficult to tell how they are collecting their data.

Bob and Jill are both engineers with the same experience and Bob gets paid $20K more is gender bias.

Bob is an engineer and Jill works at a daycare and Bob makes more is an example of two people choosing different professions.

Here’s another takedown of the 77 cent myth. I’m certain there’s a gender pay discrepancy, to varying degrees and highly variable from one industry to the next, but I don’t think the simplistic way in which it’s been presented by many is even remotely accurate (reference the OP video):

http://www.aei.org/publication/the-77-cents-on-the-dollar-myth-about-womens-pay/

Men were almost twice as likely as women to work more than 40 hours a week, and women almost twice as likely to work only 35 to 39 hours per week. Once that is taken into consideration, the pay gap begins to shrink. Women who worked a 40-hour week earned 88% of male earnings…

BLS reports that single women who have never married earned 96% of men’s earnings in 2012…

Many working mothers seek jobs that provide greater flexibility, such as telecommuting or flexible hours. Not all jobs can be flexible, and all other things being equal, those which are will pay less than those that do not…

men are four times more likely to bargain over salaries once they enter the job market…

While the BLS reports that full-time female workers earned 81% of full-time males, that is very different than saying that women earned 81% of what men earned for doing the same jobs, while working the same hours, with the same level of risk, with the same educational background and the same years of continuous, uninterrupted work experience, and assuming no gender differences in family roles like child care. In a more comprehensive study that controlled for most of these relevant variables simultaneously—such as that from economists June and Dave O’Neill for the American Enterprise Institute in 2012—nearly all of the 23% raw gender pay gap cited by Mr. Obama can be attributed to factors other than discrimination. The O’Neills conclude that, “labor market discrimination is unlikely to account for more than 5% but may not be present at all.”

My suspicion is that, anecdotally, these findings jibe with people’s experience in the workforce.

I can speak from the perspective of someone making $0.77 on the dollar to my counterparts, because of the very same factors that supposedly suppress womens’ wages. Mrs sphere works 9-5, M-F. This is by choice, and by necessity as she worked to support us while I finished my Master’s. We have two boys. I decided that I would not take a job that required full-time daycare for the boys, and so I took a job that offered 24h shifts, but that notoriously underpaid PAs, almost to the exact same percent on the dollar as what people claim women make relative to men. This was entirely by choice, because I placed a higher value on the flexibility and schedule than I did salary. My department is flush with parents who stay for the very same reason, the majority of whom are female. We recently secured a paltry pay raise, but we still earn below the 50th percentile for our specialties in the DC metro area. There is no negotiating for higher pay; you take it, or you go elsewhere. Women and men are paid precisely the same rate, with raises on the same schedule.

If you lump us in with the other PAs in the same specialties in the area, our female-dominated staff could skew the statistic and give the false impression that women are being underpaid, relative to men. Not taking these benefits into account results in a worthless statistic that in no way reflects reality. Our employer underpays everyone, but we choose to stay with that employer because of the unique value it adds to our family lives.

On a related note, women often cite the flexibility of the profession as one of the primary reasons they chose PA over MD, and that almost entirely derives from family considerations. I would hazard a guess that among PAs, the “pay gap” is even more sizable, as so many female PAs tend to leave the workforce for periods that extend well beyond the standard maternity leave.

Those sure are cute little future single women Democrat voters.

I’ll bet each and every one of them knows all the words to Iggy Azalea’s hit song.

The double standard among women regarding paying disproportionate attention to physical attributes is astonishing. Facebook is awash in selfie photos posted by women, with response after ubiquitous response of “hey pretty lady!” and the like. They perpetuate the problem as much as anyone.

But it’s Society’s fault, I guess. It’s sort of like cursing rush hour traffic while failing to realize that you’re part of the problem.

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