Father Horan Attacker Survey

Here’s the scenario.

You are 49th in Olympic triathlon, with 3 miles left to go on the bike leg.

Father Horan has decided to terrorize the triathlon event this time in your Olympic scenario. And he wants to do his “freak out” run out and grab somebody thing on the bike leg of the triathlon.

He’s coming your way about 30-40 yards out. You are on a flat surface, going about 26-30 mph.

Do you:

A. Swerve to miss him, and not risk injury or bike damage.

B. Move the shift end levers on the bullhorn all the way forward and aim to “impale him,” on them, and take your chances about risking injury or bike damage.

C. Swerve to miss him, but clothes line him with one of your arms, risking physical injury, possibly.

D. Get off your bike. Move it to the side, and out of harms way, clip out, and then run after him, and beat the shit out of him, then get back on your bike and finish the race.

There are no bullhorn levels in the Olympic Triathlon…

and I’d choose A. This is the Olympics.

A. D is what spectators are for. :smiley:

Seriously though, D would likely get you charged with assault and battery. B&C would get you in trouble too.

If I was running and he attacked me then I’d defend myself, but only if there was no other alternative. (Sadly, I don’t think I can outrun that guy)

You hope that you are in a bike breakaway with Craig Walton (after the Oz selectors come to their senses and include him) and get Walton to beat the crap out of him on your behalf. Then resume riding and get Walton to pull you to T2.

Which option was shift up, drop the hammer and T-Bone him?

Seriously, no chance to win, and to teach this guy a lesson? No brainer - FSA

You are on a flat surface, going about 26-30 mph. That’s going to take a lot of imagination on my part. Maybe going downhill.

All the articles I saw about Cornelius Horan indicated he is a former priest. So, I wouldn’t call him “Father” anymore.

Maybe you’ve got a wicked tailwind?

Okay, really. really good tailwind to get me up to that speed. Being a retired rugby front row, I know that you wait to throw the punch after the ref has turned to follow the play. So, while option D might be the best of options A through D, I need an option E when I get him later in the day outside the view of the camera.

“B&C would get you in trouble too”

No way, it was just an accident, I was looking 15 feet ahead, searching for pot holes, and when I saw him, it was too late. I did everything to avoid him, but could not. Besides I had no clue he was a repeat offender, as I don’t follow F1 or stand alone run races…

:wink:

yes, I like this idea the best. in front of the crowd, A>and they can rave at your bravety and fast wits of escaping danger. then later, the real solution: get him later when no one is looking :wink:

I’m getting pretty adept at hitting the “bottle toss” targets at ironmans. I think if I saw the good father entering my path I would launch a bottle between his eyes and drop him like a rock.

If my role were an athlete, avoid him and continue racing.

If my role were security for the event, simulataneously warn him verbally to leave the course while putting a Glazer Safety Slug from my customized Arotek Glock 19 in each eye, thus removing the threat.

If my role were security for the event, simulataneously warn him verbally to leave the course while putting a Glazer Safety Slug from my customized Arotek Glock 19 in each eye, thus removing the threat.
Holy shit! That’s sure gotta deter most of the shoplifting at Bikesport.

My official, on the record response, is “Shoot him in the fucking head.”

People whose sole means of finding significance in this world is to destroy the positive achievements of others, whether they be builders, athletes, or musicians, do not deserve to breathe air.

Have you been watching the Blues Brothers again?

"If my role were security for the event, simulataneously warn him verbally to leave the course while putting a Glazer Safety Slug from my customized Arotek Glock 19 in each eye, thus removing the threat. "

"My official, on the record response, is “Shoot him in the fucking head.”

Man, you guys need to cut down on the caffeine.

A adult human being can close a 21 foot distance in the time it takes a trained combat handgunner time to establish a sight picture center mass and engage the target with two rounds.

By then, it is too late.

FBI statisitics confirm that most handgun combat scenarios are waged at ranges of less than 9 feet, making the “speed rock” the most viable combat technique- a shooting technique where the weapon is discharged, literally, at the hip without every acquiring a visual sight picture.

To be effective and accurate at the speed rock you need to have a minimum of 3,000 live fire repetitions under your belt. That is just for admission to the club. You should also be able to do an “El Presidente” in under 10 seconds, engaging three targets including a reload.

The situation in Athens was one of the VERY few when it would have been better to shoot first, and ask questions later.

It is likely that if that same assailant had done that to the President, the assailant’s funeral would be tomorrow.

you seem to have a real head for this stuff Tom. How come you are selling bikes in Michigan (and providing enlightenment on this forum), and not out their getting rid of bad guys?
I mean, I am very glad you do what you do, and by all accounts you do it well. Just a little curious, is all.

Tom, you are fired as a security guard! You cannot SIMULTANEOUSLY verbally warn him AND apply deadly force. These are sequential events in the levels of force. You skipped submission holds and physical confrontation. Unless you could positively identify a weapon, you cannot use deadly force. Of course the other side of the story is determining temper and intent. He pretty much gave that away right away…but you could only confirm it if he ignored your verbal warning. ONLY THEN would you be authorized deadly force. Of course a good security guard can make this appear virtually simultaneous…but they are very much sequential…

That said, I want you on my team anyday.