Faster at 50

Obviously there are some very fast triathletes in their 50’s. However I get the impression that most of these folks became fast at a much younger age, and that their training in their 50’s focuses on maintaining as much of their former speed as they can. Given the reduced training volume and increased rest time that is generally recommended for older triathletes, is it common, or even possible, for people who pick up the sport of triathlon later in life to excel when competing against athletes with a long background in endurance sports? If so, what is the secret - reduced quantity and increased quality in workouts? I’m talking about people who have no significant background in any of the three disciplines.

Dave

I was never fast younger. I am 51. But, I have been doing something in this sport for about 10 years, 12 months a year.
I did not kick the volume up big time until the last year. I have NO background in any of the three disciplines.
So, fast is a relative term, just getting to the starting line at our age is 99% of the battle.

Dave

It is. In fact, the 45+ AGs are murder because those are the guys whose kids are grown and who have either climbed the corporate ladder or aren’t going to, so this group has more training time than the young guns.
I was a pretty good swimmer in my youth and a good runner in my early adult years until time constraints choked me back to a catch-as-catch-can training schedule. Then, in my late 40s and 50s I found myself with the time to just train and enjoy. One of the things that helped me was a good coach who taught me to take it easy and enjoy myself most of the time and reserve the hammering for key workouts.
I had some of my best races in my mid 50s and have coached a couple of guys who didn’t have much of an athletic background, but just a lot of desire who have done well. Everyone has X amount of racing ability in them, and you can drag it out early or late, it doesn’t matter. As I approach 60, my dreams of a sub 2:00 Olympic have faded, but I’ve had a few wins and a number of podium spots at a time when I would have figured I’d be all washed up.
The irritating thing is that the 55-59 field at races is about five times the size it was 10 years ago. I figured I’d be winning everything by now, but the old bastards just won’t quit!!

Not any better in the 50-54. 60-64 is not real small either.

Dave

Didn’t do my first tri until age 50. I’ll be 57 this summer. Had “recreational fitness” of sorts when I started but hadn’t done any competitive sports since high school and only did swimming and riding recreationally and hadn’t run for twenty years. I found myself to be a “natural” on the bike and often always have one of the fastest AG bike times and within top 15% OA at most tris I do. Of course, my running and swimming are entrely different stories.

Cousin Elwood said a lot of good stuff and I am not going to repeat it.

“Given the reduced training volume and increased rest time that is generally recommended for older triathletes…”


I don’t find this to be true at all. You just have to be smart about it. You have lived in there for 50 plus years and by now the mind and body should be talking to each other.

The biggest secret an experienced athlete brings into old age is knowing what a truly hard workout is and how to deal with the pain. This would probably be difficult to learn if a person was never coached when young. I still remember workouts I did 40 years ago.

Every top runner I know who took up triathlons in their 40s and 50s is also a very good triathlete. They usually can’t swim worth shit but their running and biking make up for it. Whatever made them a top runner (genes and drive) also made them a top triathlete.

If you have not been a swimmer, biker or runner to date, you better hope you have some undiscovered genetic ability if you want to be a “fast triathlete.” Training only gets you so far and Father Time is not making it any easier for us.

My new favorite saying is “Getting old is not for sissies.” Good luck.

I was a relatively serious runner up to the start of my family when I turned 25. then I was more of a beer drinker and softball/b-ball player. I started triathlon when I turned 44 and weighed 225 (I’m 6’ 2"). today, I’m 50 and weigh 165-170 most days–although I may be shrinking a bit:-).

I have found that I have been able to get faster each year so far. I made a real big jump last year when I worked with a coach for the first time. here is a bit of a timeline:

Age 44–just tried a sprint

45/46-more of the same and got a lot faster (10%+) just by regular training, dropping my weight into the 180s and buying some nice equipment. Did my first half at end of the year (5:12).

47-Did 14 triathlons and really caught the bug. Read a lot . More science–big emphasis on the bike. did first IM

48/49-Continued more of the same. Won my AG a lot a local races. did 2 more IM. Broke 5 hours at the half.

50-worked with Pete Reid and fairly radically changed my approach. MUCH more swimming and running. Periodized. More focus on sleep and nutrition. Big breakthorughs–4:43 at the half, 11:19 full, Team USA, All-American–about 4% faster again last year.

This year I expect to get a little faster and hopefully qualify for Hawaii. Much more running this year–volume and frequency. Total hours up to 21-23/week. Less bike volume but more intensity. Weights. similar swimming as last year. I have the best go fast toys.

Looking ahead, I think I will peak at some point before 55 but hope to be where I am today at 55 (or close). Today, I can’t compete with the Barels, bonnesses, spicers, Cuddebachs of the world and probably will never be able to–they are gifted. But I can hold my own locally and sometimes in my region. I’m up into the top 100 overall in the 50-54 AG ratings wise so it definately is possible to get to a point where you are reasonably competitive. A lot of work–you’ll need to clearly know why or really love to train and race. Both of these are true for me.

rc

Obviously there are some very fast triathletes in their 50’s. However I get the impression that most of these folks became fast at a much younger age, and that their training in their 50’s focuses on maintaining as much of their former speed as they can. Given the reduced training volume and increased rest time that is generally recommended for older triathletes, is it common, or even possible, for people who pick up the sport of triathlon later in life to excel when competing against athletes with a long background in endurance sports? If so, what is the secret - reduced quantity and increased quality in workouts? I’m talking about people who have no significant background in any of the three disciplines.

Dave

I took up triathlon (and marathons) at age 45. NO swim, bike or run experience at all. None. No personal or family history or other indication of any talent or genetic advantage.

I dabbled in triathlon and marathons for a few years and then got more serious when I signed up to race IMC as a 50 year old. Did better than expected, went back the next two years. Did well enough to qualify for Kona in my second race and in all three of my IMCs I have finished (just barely) in the top 10% of my age group. Qualifying for Kona or any other world championship was not something that I would have thought at all possible a few years back.

I’m taking this year “off” in terms of doing an IM distance race but I will be back next year as a 54 year old and again as a 55 year old when I will try to podium. I may not make it, but I know that it is possible. And for me, that is very exciting.

I read somewhere that no matter what age you start at, you can expect to continue to get faster for the first 7-10 years. I believe that. Yes, at age 53 my genetic maximum may be declining a little each year, but I don’t think I’m performing at my maximum yet.

My own training regimen is based mostly on doing what I like doing. I think consistent effort over a long training year is the key to success and that if I’m doing workouts that I enjoy, I’m more likely to be consistent. For me that is long slow distance workouts out on the bike,and the same on the run with a bit more intensity work on the run. I don’t like doing intervals or threshhold work on the bike so in the past, I have rarely done any. But I love a 5-7 hour saturday morning ride with lots of steady state work in it and I do lots of those. To improve, I think I’m going to have to do more threshhold work on the bike but I’m not looking forward to it. I also think that I will be moving to a long ride saturday, medium long ride sunday standard week protocol as recommended by Rich Strauss over at Endurancenation.com (its worth checking out).

As for the advantage that veteran fast guys have, well, they also seem to have a lot of injury issues and perhaps have a harder time staying motivated since they have been there and done that for a long time. In any event, I respect them and use them as the target that I aim for. I choose not to think that their advantage is insurmountable.

You know on ST Team USA and USAT AA means nothing, just ask them.

Killer HIM times. I just want to break 5:20 at Vineman this year so I can do LC Tri
Nationals in Vegas.

Come on, you can not beat Joe? Doing Portland this year?

Dave

Dave–I hear ya about the downscale status of AA/Team USA around here. All I know is that I had a blast in France racing for Team USA with my son so I don’t care so much what the gang thinks around here about that. Also, as I look at the list of guys ranked above that I know, they are generally a little bit to a lot better than me so that must be something as well…

Vineman is a very tough race–good luck. I hope you make it to Las Vegas–I’ll go there if my run let’s me down again in my quest for Hawaii.

As for Joe, I learned one thing about him this year–in addition to being a freak of nature who has incredible genes and a guy with an immensely deep base, he is a guy who trains really hard as well. Hard to begrudge him his success when he is such a hard worker and a great guy as well!

Kill em at VM!

rc

Going to Germany last year with Team USA for the most fun I have ever had in this sport.
I really looking forward to Vancouver since it will be a HUGE team. I not sure I can fit in
the aquathlon worlds in Mexico or the LC Du worlds.

Hope I do not see ya in Vegas, but one thing I am learning as I get older, injuries, etc. make
it such that I do not get too worked up about a race, since I cannot always control if I can even go.
Just need to get through Boston in one piece first.

Have you ever done Auburn? Makes VM look flat but boy does it get hot in that race. I just
want to get their in one piece since I have crashed, and missed with oleander poisioning after that.

Dave