“It’s in the Koran alright. I know that for a fact myself. Your denying it doesn’t make it dissapear. I’ll do a check on the exact reference and verse etc. But it was in fact already quoted here in the Lavender Room a couple of years back by a bloke named Big Kahuna word verbatim translated together with some other pretty insightful Koran versus. A well read bloke that Big Kahuna.”
It is NOT, and this clearly illustrates how unsupported your “facts” are. Your claim about such notion being a fundamental Muslim cause means you do not have enough knowledge about the religion (good or bad). I challenge you to use the search feature of this forum and find the “reference” you are citing. I am able to correct you on this particular creed that you have a vague idea about, but it’s probably better to leave your homework to yourself, maybe you also learn something else in between while searching.
*“*You’re a Muslim born atheist? Good for you, I hope you don’t flip the same way I have seen some do. The best Muslims are the Pork eating ones.”
Haha, thanks for good wishes for me. But this thread is not about me, I just offered myself as a counter-example to your thesis. And I am not alone, I know many more atheists, non-believers who were born Muslim. Your idea that there are some irremovable circuits implanted in the head of those who are born Muslim which when turned on, summon them all for the Muslim cause is an entertaining sci-fi plot however!
*“*Yeah break dance and other American copy cat culture the Muslims do like to emulate. I could never understand how the same Muslim individuals so like to copy the American lifestyle on one hand and even adopt American slang English”
Any reason for your conspicuously condescending tone? It is ironic that you denounce their adoption of “American lifestyle”, in spite of the wide broadcast of the west culture. Is the right to so called “emulate” the west and using English slang exclusive to Christians??
“and be so happy about 9/11”
That is just nonsense accusation without any ground. In spite of dismal relationships between the governments, Iran’s incumbent president was one of the first to condemn the attacks: http://nyc.indymedia.org/or/2007/09/91089.html
Many Iranians, attended the Swiss Embassy in Tehran, which represents USA in the country, and signed condolence memos to express their sympathies with the victims. My references are from Iran, because that is where I was born and where I lived at the time. I am sure there have been similar responses from other Muslim countries.
“and lending their support to the terrorists on the other. It’s like those terrorists are justified in their sacred acts for the injustices brought on to brother Muslims and all this said whilst wearing their Levis and listening to American Rock music and doing their break dance. It’s fuging mind boggling.”
Those people are not terrorists, and have not lent their support to any terror group. They are young kids having fun at a park. It boggles your mind, because it falsifies your theories.
*"*There really is no logic in religious fanaticism, especially Islam. Like the Paki who goes to the Mosque does his religious prayers then comes home and slaughters his two pre-pubescent young daughters by chopping them to bits. Why? All because he was afraid they would grow up to be like their cousin who had eloped out of love to get married instead of following the traditional arranged marriage. And the really good part was he wasn’t even charged by authorities because it was deemed that he was merely upholding the family honor. This was not the dark ages but just a couple of years ago. Such senseless Honor killings in Pakistan continues to this day. "
Yes, I agree, some Muslims have caused ugly incidents. Islam is also a religion, as such the ideology itself suffers more or less from the same things that other religions do. What I disagree with is that, these incidents are not as pervasive or as acclaimed in the Muslim world as you suggest. They sure have to own up to it and fight it. There are modern Muslims out there as well and there are also many different branches of Islam which have not much in common with one another. Brushing them all with the same paint is a mistake. There are many Muslim scholars who are trying to change the violent face of Islam, by pronouncing the softer and more spiritual prats of the religion. They are trying to convince the World that “Islam is about peace” . Outside of the theology class, I see no reason to doubt if their attempt is bona fide.
*“*So this is basically what the Muslim Pandemic Religious Ideology is all about. To return all Muslims to this true way of life and belief and to wash clean the corruption of the West. … Is it not? "
MPRI? I am not aware of such an ideology. You are claiming that it exists as a belief, therefore the onus of providing evidence for it is upon you. A few scattered youtube videos BTW do not count as evidence.
Yes, Muslims as a whole are not as progressive as the west. In part, their religion can be blamed. But the notion that they are all the same is preposterous.
*”*Here’s something from a non Muslim Arab -"
Oh the same video again??
when you really know shit and actually read and respond with substance to the many uncontested and actual facts I have kindly put in front of you to help in your education is the day I’ll grow up. Mouthing the way you do is of no use bull, no matter how diplomatic you claim to be.