Read his memoirs Boy and Going Solo
My review for Boy "Chocolates, mice, and school beatings; what else did you expect???
Then there are My Uncle Oswald and Skin anthologies
“Lamb To The Slaughter” is one of greatest episodes of Alfred Hitchcock Theater, and is mysteriously not available to stream ANYWHERE?
Bud Light made some promotional cans with an influencer on them. Fox News literally had the story on their front page for months stoking outrage. They knew their audience wouldn’t care, they didn’t know Fox would go on a months long mission to cancel them.
I read that as “Henley songs” as in Don Henley
To that point - “fuck Jimmy Iovine” I always say when Iovine’s name is mentioned (even in the recent Springsteen movie)
Background: Jimmy Iovine was working on Stevie Nicks’ solo debut, Bella Donna , while secretly dating her
She had broken up with Don Henley, but Iovine needed some Henley songs to finish that plus a few other things he was working on, so they kept it quiet
To maintain focus and avoid upsetting his friend/client Tom Petty, Iovine hid Nicks in his basement during Petty’s visits. Despite this, Iovine produced the iconic duet “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around” featuring them
He is a legendary prick; pretty much the polar opposite of Rick Rubin or Steve Albini
For the most part I separate the work from the person. I can’t think of anyone who I have personally cancelled but then again I’m not really much a fan of persons in the first place. Pink Floyd is still one of my favorite bands despite Roger Waters being a raging asshole.
My personal list includes Michael Jackson, Mel Gibson and Will Smith.
Also Adam Carolla and Joe Rogan. The both have migrated from common sense guys to right wing idiots.
There are a bunch more like Kid Rock and all the other MAGA fools but they are inconsequential because I don’t listen to their garbage anyway.
Surprised this is the first mention of old Mel. He hit so many different races, religions, and gender’s in his vile tirades. And they mostly got filmed or recorded. But man the dude can make a good movie..
For me it is mostly a feeling I have towards these folks, and sometimes a quiet intangible boycott of something they have done or are doing..I got the same bad feelings towards Jon Voight and James Woods. Some really great works, but lost all respect for the men. Actually played poker with James once and listened to his tirade on the democ-rats, and how great Trump was going to be for the country. I just listened and remembered how much I like his work..
It’s a little easier to overlook with athletes because you’re not directly putting money in their pocket. Also their careers are much shorter. A lot of times they’re retired before they show their true colors (OJ Simpson).
My first real go at stopping support for an artist based on allegations has ended somewhat poorly.
There’s an electronic music artist that I used to listen to a LOT, since very early in his career, big presence at Burning Man, etc. Then, in 2021, some pretty damning allegations came to light regarding ephebophilia, grooming, and interstate sex trafficking. Cancel culture obviously buried him, and the allegations were disgusting enough that I stopped listening to his music without a bit of regret. His only response was to deny before dropping off the face of the earth.
There was also a lot of collateral damage that came out of the woodwork separate from the main body of allegations - female artists he’d collaborated with accusing him of very unfair licensing terms and/or refusal to credit work, stuff like that.
Then, in 2025, it came to light that (allegedly) the underage and trafficking allegations were the creation of an obsessed and spurned male fan, who’d done an immense amount of coordination with some rubes to weave a tapestry of allegations that seemed impenetrable. Whoopsie. Cue “what happens when cancel culture gets it wrong?”
Then, on the flip side, all of that collateral damage about mistreatment of female collaborators and whatnot has never been refuted, so there’s that, too.
This thread has mentioned names that I had no idea were attached to any controversy! Side effect of not following pop culture very closely I suppose. Am I enabling by not examining the pasts of artists and actors and musicians and athletes whose professional output I enjoy?
There’s a spectrum with “sparkling human being” at one end, “directly did repugnant shit to other humans” at the other, and then a LOT of gray area in the middle, and that gray area is absolutely judged differently by our morality of the day. The ends of the spectrum are of course easy to deal with, and the middle is an absolute minefield. What passed the test a decade ago is radioactive today.
For me, my perception of an athlete’s performance isn’t affected by whether they are a good person. But, my perception of someone singing is affected. Lyrics are often more personal and subject to interpretation. To me, a singer is partly trying to sell who they are, or at least create an image of how they want to be seen.
What did he do?
I know very little about the artist’s or athlete’s personal lives. Don’t really care. OK, Armstrong and Jackson scandals were simply unavoidable. The rest, my wife sometimes mentions this or that name, and I am like, who is that?
I thought we were just using pedophilia nowadays for being attracted to anyone under the age of about 25.
Pretty well known for his antisemitism
Like, traditional Edwadian British level, Lindbergh level, Nazi level?
I think about this often when I hear Michael Jackson’s music on the radio.
I don’t get lumping Will Smith in with racists, rapists and pedophiles. He screwed up with the slap, but that was an instantaneous thing compared to repeatedly victimizing someone.
That’s bad news for Leo
He’s “ok” - he’s aged up to the 25-29 age group…
I’m not sure how to answer that, though I get the gist of what you’re asking.
Not enough to make me stop reading & listening to his works.
Enough that his estate issued an apology for the antisemitism, but did so at the height of what could perhaps be considered ‘peak woke-ism’. Roald Dahl's Family Apologizes For His Anti-Semitic Comments : NPR. He himself described himself as antisemitic in 1990.
His works have also been criticized and in some cases edited in more recent editions for other subjects that have become more sensitive over time. See, e.g., removal of descriptions of kids as “fat” in some of his stories. Personally, I tend to gloss over those things as acceptable at the time, and/or over-sensitive criticisms in our own time. https://en.wikipedia/org/wiki/Roald_Dahl_revision_controversy
Well, that was never actually a thing calling people a pedophile for dating someone under 25. And Leo is still pretty creepy with that
Cosby is a really hard one for me, I grew up listening to his records, my 5th grade teacher let me bring one in once in a while, my family always watched his tv specials so there’s a lot of good memories there, it was hard finding out he was scumbag and I didn’t listen or watch any of shows for years, I still haven’t watched anything but I have started listening again, I guess not seeing his face makes it easier.