Disney is playing with fire

So apparently Disney is planning to pull its catalogue of cartoons and family fare off Netflix so it can launch its own online streaming network.

Will people get a subscription to another streaming service so the rug-rats can watch Frozen and Cinderella? The Disney brand does not seem to resonate with the kids today.
Netflix is now a goliath in the TV entertainment industry. I can’t imagine Netflix can’t create its own high quality kids shows.
What is the ST perspective?

Disney can’t stop themselves from believing anything they touch will turn to gold. ESPN ring any bells?

As a parent of two kids (both now teenagers), I might have thought about a Disney subscription service when they were younger, might. Likely would not have subscribed. Now that my kids are of the age they don’t watch daily Disney stuff, what is Disney going to offer me to keep my subscription?

So apparently Disney is planning to pull its catalogue of cartoons and family fare off Netflix so it can launch its own online streaming network.

Will people get a subscription to another streaming service so the rug-rats can watch Frozen and Cinderella? The Disney brand does not seem to resonate with the kids today.
Netflix is now a goliath in the TV entertainment industry. I can’t imagine Netflix can’t create its own high quality kids shows.
What is the ST perspective?

Watching little girls running around for the past couple years singing songs from Frozen and dressing up like whoever those princesses are, I’m not sure why you say Disney doesn’t resonate with kids today. Disney owns all the Pixar films, as well as it’s own stable of animated movies like Frozen, which did very very well, along with all of their direct to video sequels which my nephews seem happy to eat up. Aside from those movies, eventually, it will mean that the Marvel movies and Star Wars films, as well as the Pirates of the Caribbean series might also no longer be on Netflix.

No I wouldn’t get another subscription. My kids like Disney movies but I don’t think they watch Disney cartoons. There’s so many cartoons available for them to watch it wouldn’t faze them if some got pulled.
Although I wish they would watch more Disney cartoons since the ones they do watch are so bizarre.

I thought Disney only recently put its movies on Netflix. My hunch – a lack of realization on their part just how many streams their content would get on Netflix and an attempt to now own a bigger piece of that pie, which is why they’re announcing this less than a year after the Netflix-Disney deal started (Sept, 2016). It’s one thing to sell 20million DVDs of a movie, yet another to realize that little kids (or big kids in the case of Star Wars) are watching those a total of 500million times, exactly what happens when one no longer needs to purchase Moana & instead has kids that stream it 30 times.

So apparently Disney is planning to pull its catalogue of cartoons and family fare off Netflix so it can launch its own online streaming network.

Will people get a subscription to another streaming service so the rug-rats can watch Frozen and Cinderella? The Disney brand does not seem to resonate with the kids today.
Netflix is now a goliath in the TV entertainment industry. I can’t imagine Netflix can’t create its own high quality kids shows.
What is the ST perspective?

Take a look at everything Disney owns:

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Disney

Then couple the above with offers to theme parks that will only be available to Disney subscribers. Then toss in all the toy companies that want your money. Yes, this could be a very lucrative business if done right. And it’s only the beginning.

On the flip side, I’m getting a little worried about Netflix. Netflix’ library of quality movies sucks, and is shrinking constantly. It’s gradually becoming older TV series, shit movies, and relatively low-budget Netflix Original ™ content. Some of that original content is good, but I’m not sure Orange is the New Black, Santa Clarita Diet, et al. are enough to drive the platform long-term.

I can’t remember the last time I watched an actual movie on Netflix. I try, but the process usually is spending a minute looking through crap then swinging over to Amazon Prime Video for a good movie for ~$3 or whatever. Edit: Or often free.

Disney may have made the right move. Particularly if they add merchandise purchasing right into the movies, etc. There’s so much opportunity for marketing once you’re in someone’s living room with full control over the “experience.”

I wonder if Disney would actually build a service from the ground up. Wouldn’t it make more sense to purchase an existing service? Not saying they’d buy Netflix. I’m not overly plugged into the industry, but are there any streaming services (Vudu, Hulu, Sling, etc) that may be getting short on cash? That could be an attractive purchase for Disney. Snatch up a existing service with an already existing customer base, and content licenses other than Disney owned.

Netflix has an absolutely awful UI for finding movie content. I think they have enough stuff worth watching, but it can be difficult to navigate through and find worthwhile content. Search by actor & get only a few results for the movies Netflix offers that they’re in. Search by genre and get only what Netflix thinks you might want to watch, which is fairly random. I don’t know of a streaming service that’s really nailed that experience, although I’d expect Netflix to be farther ahead than they are in that area given their dominance.

I start to wonder what happens to Marvel shows created by Netflix as Disney owns Marvel. I don’t see myself buying 2 subscriptions, but could easily see dropping one for the other. Whichever has the best content. Since I still have cable and can watch disney programming (my kids can watch) and we own a lot of the movies on blue ray or dvd, so I’m not sure what would cause me to switch to a Disney streaming service.

Everyone already has Netflix. Who wants to pay for another streaming service? If you already have cable and a DVR I’m sure it’s full of Disney movies.

For the life of me I can’t figure out what’s wrong with these TV/cable companies. They continually restrict their content or put it behind a pay wall. Most people either don’t watch it, illegally stream it or wait for it to come to Netflix. In the first two scenarios the TV companies get nothing. Why don’t they make their content easily accessible so you come to their site or app and are forced to watch their commercials?

Take a look at everything Disney owns:

http://disney.wikia.com/...sets_owned_by_Disney

Then couple the above with offers to theme parks that will only be available to Disney subscribers. Then toss in all the toy companies that want your money. Yes, this could be a very lucrative business if done right. And it’s only the beginning.

just for laughs, do you know what the global merchandising take was for the ‘cars’ movies?

over $10 billion.

by 2011.

Netflix has an absolutely awful UI for finding movie content. I think they have enough stuff worth watching, but it can be difficult to navigate through and find worthwhile content. Search by actor & get only a few results for the movies Netflix offers that they’re in. Search by genre and get only what Netflix thinks you might want to watch, which is fairly random. I don’t know of a streaming service that’s really nailed that experience, although I’d expect Netflix to be farther ahead than they are in that area given their dominance.

I usually take it up a level on searches, using your content box (Roku box or Amazon fire box) to do searches. It will bring you all it finds across all apps you have, along with prices. Roku used to have a.good search interface. I’ve switched to Amazon Fire now, and theirs is a bit less agnostic, and tends to favor Prime offerings in the top of searches.

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Having a little girl who is obsessed with princesses…Disney resonates with young kids very well. Wife and I have tried to fight off the princess obsession with my daughter, but she is the girliest girl you will ever meet.

Luckily Disney has changed all of their princesses from the ‘worthless damsels in distress’ to ‘girl power’.

A lot will pay for it. HBO charges $15 a month. Disney easily has the content to charge that. Remember they also own abc.

The Who wants to pay for another streaming site argument is non-starter. The same thing was said with Netflix. “Who would pay for this when you’re already paying for cable”. Plenty. Once it is set up no one pays attention it’s just a small amount coming out of your bank account or credit card each month.

If you put the content out there for a price that makes sense people aren’t going to care about it being another service.

The more of these companies who do this will continually pushes cable companies into a smaller corner. At some point it’ll be cheaper to have 4-5 subscriptions of the channels you want vs 80 percent you don’t. That’ll be a great day.

A lot will pay for it. HBO charges $15 a month. Disney easily has the content to charge that. Remember they also own abc.

The Who wants to pay for another streaming site argument is non-starter. The same thing was said with Netflix. “Who would pay for this when you’re already paying for cable”. Plenty. Once it is set up no one pays attention it’s just a small amount coming out of your bank account or credit card each month.

If you put the content out there for a price that makes sense people aren’t going to care about it being another service.

The more of these companies who do this will continually pushes cable companies into a smaller corner. At some point it’ll be cheaper to have 4-5 subscriptions of the channels you want vs 80 percent you don’t. That’ll be a great day.

This is just one more step towards ditching cable services for people. Customers are going more and more for a la carte viewing. Unfortunately, that’s going to add up to as much or more than your cable bill was, as these various networks or companies all start their own services.

A lot will pay for it. HBO charges $15 a month. Disney easily has the content to charge that. Remember they also own abc.

The Who wants to pay for another streaming site argument is non-starter. The same thing was said with Netflix. “Who would pay for this when you’re already paying for cable”. Plenty. Once it is set up no one pays attention it’s just a small amount coming out of your bank account or credit card each month.

If you put the content out there for a price that makes sense people aren’t going to care about it being another service.

The more of these companies who do this will continually pushes cable companies into a smaller corner. At some point it’ll be cheaper to have 4-5 subscriptions of the channels you want vs 80 percent you don’t. That’ll be a great day.

This is just one more step towards ditching cable services for people. Customers are going more and more for a la carte viewing. Unfortunately, that’s going to add up to as much or more than your cable bill was, as these various networks or companies all start their own services.

But will people really mind? I wouldn’t. At least I would know I am getting what I am paying for. Right now I am a direct TV subscriber. I watch Game of Thrones, Walking Dead and may one or 2 other shows from on Fox or the other main networks. I am thinking of dropping Direct TV all together and just throwing up a High Def antenna for local channels. Then use streaming services for the rest. As of right now, I don’t think there are any contracts with streaming services. I would more than likely pay HBO the $15 a month while Game of Thrones was on and do the same with who ever is streaming walking dead. After the season is over cancel the service until next season.

A lot will pay for it. HBO charges $15 a month. Disney easily has the content to charge that. Remember they also own abc.

The Who wants to pay for another streaming site argument is non-starter. The same thing was said with Netflix. “Who would pay for this when you’re already paying for cable”. Plenty. Once it is set up no one pays attention it’s just a small amount coming out of your bank account or credit card each month.

If you put the content out there for a price that makes sense people aren’t going to care about it being another service.

The more of these companies who do this will continually pushes cable companies into a smaller corner. At some point it’ll be cheaper to have 4-5 subscriptions of the channels you want vs 80 percent you don’t. That’ll be a great day.

This is just one more step towards ditching cable services for people. Customers are going more and more for a la carte viewing. Unfortunately, that’s going to add up to as much or more than your cable bill was, as these various networks or companies all start their own services.

But will people really mind? I wouldn’t. At least I would know I am getting what I am paying for. Right now I am a direct TV subscriber. I watch Game of Thrones, Walking Dead and may one or 2 other shows from on Fox or the other main networks. I am thinking of dropping Direct TV all together and just throwing up a High Def antenna for local channels. Then use streaming services for the rest. As of right now, I don’t think there are any contracts with streaming services. I would more than likely pay HBO the $15 a month while Game of Thrones was on and do the same with who ever is streaming walking dead. After the season is over cancel the service until next season.

I don’t know if people will mind. For many, the high cost of cable/satellite is why they cut the cord. They do so because local networks can be viewed over antenna, and you can currently subscribe or pay for two or three services (Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, etc) and get most of what you want. If everything turns into discreet services with a $10-15 fee, it will add up quick.

Part of the appeal of cable is that the costs are shared. As long as you only want to subscribe to a small handful of content providers, you’d be fine. But if you have to pay separately for each major “cable network,” plus separately for Disney owned content, and separately for WB own content, and separately for Fox owned content, and separately for Sony owned content, etc, etc, it will get very expensive. And as much as some people are good with cutting the cord and only watching their favorite shows, an awful lot of people like being able to see bits and pieces from all over the spectrum. They like being able to surf around and find random stuff to watch.

It’ll be a big paradigm shift.

I honestly wish the cable companies would move to a pay per view service. You only subscribe to the shows you want to watch. … As long as they didnt price gouge you for the shows. Right now, I have to get a specific cable package just to get AMC to watch Walking Dead. I don’t want to pay for the 100 or so extra channels that I never watch.

I honestly wish the cable companies would move to a pay per view service. You only subscribe to the shows you want to watch. … As long as they didnt price gouge you for the shows. Right now, I have to get a specific cable package just to get AMC to watch Walking Dead. I don’t want to pay for the 100 or so extra channels that I never watch.

I’d be happy with it if they would completely let you tailor your channel packages. It’s hard to do based on individual shows since they come and go so often.