What are the differences between the S-Works and Pro Transition framesets other then the FACT Carbon and Price?
The carbon is the difference. S-Works is made of FACT 9 and PRO is made of FACT 7
The S-Works comes with both seatposts and the PRO only comes with the setback, but most dealers will swap the setback for zero off-set
What are the differences between the S-Works and Pro Transition framesets other then the FACT Carbon and Price?
Logo and striping color? 
Seriously…you’ve nailed the main differences…
Between the framesets it is the carbon and seatposts like was said. Although, the S-Works “frameset” comes as a Module and with that you get the crank too, I think that has a lot to do with the $1100 difference. Well, that and the carbon weave and seatpost, the seatpost is $200 (MSRP). The crankset is $500 (MSPRP). So that is $700 right there. The other $400 must be for the different Carbon.
Would anybody happen to know if the 2010 Specialized Transition Pro f/s requires a bb30 or can I use a threaded bb? I know that the complete bikes are different b/c they come with Specialized cranks, but I am not sure about the 2010 frameset.
Would anybody happen to know if the 2010 Specialized Transition Pro f/s requires a bb30 or can I use a threaded bb? I know that the complete bikes are different b/c they come with Specialized cranks, but I am not sure about the 2010 frameset.
I’m fairly certain (based on just looking at the photo on the Specialized website of the 2010 frameset) that it Transition Pro frame bought as a “module” comes with an insert bonded in that accepts normal threaded BBs (English - 68 IIRC). That’s how my '09 came.
I don’t think you can buy the pro as a module. Looks like you can only get the S-Works as the module. Also doesn’t appear as though the pro frame comes with BB30.
I don’t think you can buy the pro as a module. Looks like you can only get the S-Works as the module. Also doesn’t appear as though the pro frame comes with BB30.
Semantics…the only difference apparently between a “module” and a “frameset” is the “module” comes with cranks and BB. Since we are talking about the Pro, I was referring to the “Pro frameset”. Sorry about the confusion.
The Pro frame DOES come with BB30 when bought as a complete bike, as evidenced by the FACT crankset on the complete bike. The frameset, however, comes with a regular BB sleeve bonded in place (if they stayed consistent with the '09 models and as implied by the '10 frameset pic).
Clear as mud?
I got the pro transition. Great frame, great price.
I have no clue what you just said, but I’ll agree that the Pro framset purchased separtely is a regular BB and the Pro purchased as a complete bike has the BB30.
I have no clue what you just said, but I’ll agree that the Pro framset purchased separtely is a regular BB and the Pro purchased as a complete bike has the BB30.
Well…I’m glad I cleared that all up for you
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Tom, have you enough miles on the Transition to make a generalized statement about it?
Tom, have you enough miles on the Transition to make a generalized statement about it?
Sure…based on my speed vs. power vs. conditions from last Sunday’s 20K TT…it’s FAST 
Is that general enough for you?
Elegant in its simplicity!
discussed has been the pro vs s-works.
is the comp the same as the pro then, just with a lower spec?
trying to decide which route to head.
not having much luck in the pre-owned mkt, you all must like 'em enough to keep 'em.
Looking at my third year on my Transition Pro frameset- it is very fast. Been happy with mine.
Only thing I would consider replacing with would be one of the next-gen uber bikes (Shiv, SpeedConcept or nose-cone Giant).
I have no clue what you just said, but I’ll agree that the Pro framset purchased separtely is a regular BB and the Pro purchased as a complete bike has the BB30.
Yes, there is one of the FAQs on the Specialized website that addresses this, and the general rule is they only supply frames in BB30 if it ships with their crankset. If it doesn’t ship with their crankset, it has a standard BB.
Sure…based on my speed vs. power vs. conditions from last Sunday’s 20K TT…it’s FAST
Have you worked out your CdA on it? Do you mind saying what it is and what it was on your previous bike? (I don’t know what you had before)
I’m particularly interested in your new bike because it’s remarkably similar to the bike I’m putting together for myself - same frameset, almost the same wheels.
Sure…based on my speed vs. power vs. conditions from last Sunday’s 20K TT…it’s FAST
Have you worked out your CdA on it? Do you mind saying what it is and what it was on your previous bike? (I don’t know what you had before)
I’m particularly interested in your new bike because it’s remarkably similar to the bike I’m putting together for myself - same frameset, almost the same wheels.
Not yet…and it was a bit windy on Sunday so I haven’t had a big incentive to guesstimate off of that performance.
However, if the P3C vs. Transition data that Mark Cote shared is valid…and working off of my experience in the P2K vs. P3C testing (last year on the P2K I was apparently ~.215 m^2 with basically the same setup I have on the Transition now)…I’m hoping/guessing I might be down around the .20 m^2 CdA mark…but, like I said, I haven’t formally tested it yet (it’s still too cold in the mornings around here for me to get my lazy butt out of bed
discussed has been the pro vs s-works.
is the comp the same as the pro then, just with a lower spec?
The best I can tell is that the Pro, Expert, and Comp all have basically the same frame, with the Pro frameset, the Expert, and the Comp all having threaded BBs and the Pro complete bike being BB30. Other than that, the shapes and carbon appear to all be identical…just different paint jobs.