Exactly what I copy/pasted in post #6
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Hello jaretj and All,
jaretj writes: “Exactly what I copy/pasted in post #6”
**Yes … quite so … My imitation is the sincerest form of flattery … **(except my copy has hot link URL’s)
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(Notice of bias regarding Delta Airlines continued success … I have a vested interest)
Fly Delta “Keep Climbing”
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Just as an FYI to those interested… I just traveled to Europe on business and did 3 races in 3 countries in 3 weeks: France, Finland and Germany. I had to travel on several airlines and take the train in several places and didn’t want to drag my standard bike case and pay the bike fees on each one of the 5 flights I took.
I found a backpack bike case online called Orucase Sub 62 (size small) that was perfect for my Cervelo P2 (size small). Not only I had a free hand to pull my carry-on bag, I was never charged a bike fee on any flight. The bag was within the weight and size dimensions of a “regular” suitcase. The bag did required me to remove the fork but it wasn’t a big deal… worth the extra effort. For larger frames, I think that the medium or large backpack would be needed.
I had a problem with one of the zipper pulls and one latch. I contacted the manufacturer and 2 days later, I had a new bag delivered to my front porch with a free return label to send the one I had back. Incredible.
just to add our experience this past weekend, flew to USAT Nationals in Cleveland on Delta. We get free checked bags due to having a Delta AmEx Platinum card.
For this trip I was using a soft case, a Bike Pro case I bought 25 years ago (and still going strong).
Agent tried to charge me $150 for the bike and I already had the page up on my phone that said the bike goes as a checked bag if under 50lbs and 115". He told me that was only for tickets purchased after July 17th which my ticket was purchased before that date. I showed him the page and there was no date restriction on the page and nicely requested to speak to a supervisor. Supervisor came out and immediately told him as long as it was under the weight/size it goes as a checked bag. So he pulled out a tape measure and it measured 95" and was 49lbs so it went free.
On the return, same thing happened, requested a supervisor. This time I showed the supervisor in Cleveland the page and he looked it over completely and said I was right, if there was no date on the page online, they couldn’t charge me so again it flew free.
Love this new policy since I fly Delta 90% of the time.
I recently travelled with a lacrosse stick (Defense so a long pole). It was in a PVC pipe and weighed about 7lbs but it was roughly 6 feet long. They wanted to charge me $50 each way on Delta. The damn pole itself costs $100. I managed to talk them out of the charge each way.
just to add our experience this past weekend, flew to USAT Nationals in Cleveland on Delta. We get free checked bags due to having a Delta AmEx Platinum card.
For this trip I was using a soft case, a Bike Pro case I bought 25 years ago (and still going strong).
Agent tried to charge me $150 for the bike and I already had the page up on my phone that said the bike goes as a checked bag if under 50lbs and 115". He told me that was only for tickets purchased after July 17th which my ticket was purchased before that date. I showed him the page and there was no date restriction on the page and nicely requested to speak to a supervisor. Supervisor came out and immediately told him as long as it was under the weight/size it goes as a checked bag. So he pulled out a tape measure and it measured 95" and was 49lbs so it went free.
On the return, same thing happened, requested a supervisor. This time I showed the supervisor in Cleveland the page and he looked it over completely and said I was right, if there was no date on the page online, they couldn’t charge me so again it flew free.
Love this new policy since I fly Delta 90% of the time.
I’m with you… I fly Delta almost 100% of the time (points baby!!).
Anyway, I was unaware of this AWESOME change and flew to Michigan late July. I was charged the $150 at LAX which I simply expected but when leaving Michigan, I wasn’t charged. They simply weighed the box (Scicon Aerocomfort X?) and zero charge since I get free luggage with status. I thought she f*cked up but I’m guessing she actually knew the new rules… so kickass!
Whatever the reasoning, I’m mentioning this because as stated above, STAND YOUR GROUND and ask for a manager if they want to charge you. They simply might not know the rules yet.
Hello BrentwoodTriGuy and All,
Delta Air Lines began as a crop dusting operation called Huff Daland Dusters, Incorporated. The company was founded on May 30, 1924, in Macon, Georgia, and moved to Monroe, Louisiana, in 1925. They flew a Huff-Daland Duster, the first true crop duster, designed to combat the boll weevil infestation of cotton crops.
On April 15, 2008, Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines announced a merger agreement. The merger of the two carriers formed what was then the largest commercial airline in the world, with 786 aircraft.
Go Delta!
‘Keep Climbing’
I’m on American for IMWI and already have TBT booked but am considering getting a refund now that AA doesn’t charge a bike fee. I’d go with a Scicon Aerocomfort Tri bag. AA’s limits for bikes are 50lbs and 126 linear inches. Anyone know if the Scicon Tri bag fits under that 126" limit? I assume it’s about the largest bike bag available since you don’t have to remove your aerobars or seat.
I’m on American for IMWI and already have TBT booked but am considering getting a refund now that AA doesn’t charge a bike fee. I’d go with a Scicon Aerocomfort Tri bag. AA’s limits for bikes are 50lbs and 126 linear inches. Anyone know if the Scicon Tri bag fits under that 126" limit? I assume it’s about the largest bike bag available since you don’t have to remove your aerobars or seat.
Here are the dimensions from their web site. Looks like it’ll be under the limit.
129 x 98 x 45 cm
Thanks - that’s only about 106 inches so should be plenty of room for creative measuring if a ticket agent goes rogue.
You got lucky. It actually is buried on their website that it’s only for tickets purchased after July 17th. Just not on the page with baggage restrictions. Super scummy IMO and I’m going to avoid flying delta from now on for sure
I’m thinking about doing the Challenge Cancun next year. I always fly Delta (status) and this is really good news. But here’s the deal. I currently do all my races on an old Giant Defy (road bike) but I’m planning on buying a tri bike in the next 18 months. It’s probably a good idea to wait until I buy a triathlon bike to also buy a proper case for it. A case that will fit the bike. I don’t want to spend money now on a case that might not fit the tri bike.
In that case, no pun intended, I was looking into getting a regular bike cardboard box for this trip to Cancun. Fedex sells bike boxes (https://www.fedex.com/en-us/shipping/packing-boxes/services.html) and the measurements (54" x 28" x 8" = 90") are under Delta’s requirements (115").
Is this the way to go??
In that case, no pun intended, I was looking into getting a regular bike cardboard box for this trip to Cancun. Fedex sells bike boxes (https://www.fedex.com/…-boxes/services.html) and the measurements (54" x 28" x 8" = 90") are under Delta’s requirements (115").
Is this the way to go??
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So I am always giving my mates a hard time about spending money on fancy bike boxes and one of them laid down a challenge for me to see how well a cardboard box would hold up to my travel habits.This box carried my CAAD8 undamaged on 31 flights over three continents in 2017/18 before the check in staff in Brisbane started laughing at how much tape was holding it together and told me that I should retire it.I am almost due to retire the box that is two boxes removed from this one.
In that case, no pun intended, I was looking into getting a regular bike cardboard box for this trip to Cancun. Fedex sells bike boxes (https://www.fedex.com/…-boxes/services.html) and the measurements (54" x 28" x 8" = 90") are under Delta’s requirements (115").
Is this the way to go??
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So I am always giving my mates a hard time about spending money on fancy bike boxes and one of them laid down a challenge for me to see how well a cardboard box would hold up to my travel habits.This box carried my CAAD8 undamaged on 31 flights over three continents in 2017/18 before the check in staff in Brisbane started laughing at how much tape was holding it together and told me that I should retire it.I am almost due to retire the box that is two boxes removed from this one.
hahah that answers my question!
Slowman … have you finished with your research? What is the conclusion?
I’ve read this entire thread. I thought from reading this that as long as the bike case is under 50 lbs AND under 115 linear inches that Delta would waive the fees. I have an international flight on Delta next week. I called up Delta to confirm. What they stated was that anything over 62 linear inches OR 50 lbs would incur the excess luggage fees. This is contrary to what is said in some of the posts in this thread. Perhaps, the person at the data center answering my phone calls (talked to 2 different agents on two separate calls) is not as keep as the agent on the ground at the airport.
It would be nice to hear from a bunch of people on ST who purchased a ticket after July 17, have flown on delta since the purchased of that ticket, and what the result was when they brought their bike bag to the airport.
Now that I have another screen in front of me I have real numbers.
So when you go to the standard check bag allowance page it gives you the cost up to two bags. Now those two bags cannot exceed 62 inches. Which means like one bike box fits maybe.
So then I clicked on the baggage fee and details rules. Then onto the overweight and oversized bags. When you go to oversized it says bags larger than 80 inches aren’t allowed. Well that obviously can’t be the right section either because only one or two bike boxes fit. No one could ever fly on delta if that was the case so oversize isn’t the right section to use.
Then you click on specialty items, then sports equipment. For all sports equipment at the top of that section it says you now get up to 115 inches. So this is the correct section at least. And it says normal bag fees apply.
For the bike section it says “standard baggage allowance and feesâ€. You still have to be under 50lbs to not get an overweight fee. But it really does look like the bike fee is gone. There is other section you could actually cover a bike under besides the bike section.
that’s what i thought it said at first read. but if you look at it closely, what’s more likely is that you can’t take the bag on at all of it exceeds 115". not that it goes as regular baggage under 115".
i think it’s likely that they’ve matched american. however, at the ticket counter the agent is simply going to look up the rules and read them. what is that agent likely to interpret? in any case, we’re researching it now.
Slowman … have you finished with your research? What is the conclusion?
I’ve read this entire thread. I thought from reading this that as long as the bike case is under 50 lbs AND under 115 linear inches that Delta would waive the fees. I have an international flight on Delta next week. I called up Delta to confirm. What they stated was that anything over 62 linear inches OR 50 lbs would incur the excess luggage fees. This is contrary to what is said in some of the posts in this thread. Perhaps, the person at the data center answering my phone calls (talked to 2 different agents on two separate calls) is not as keep as the agent on the ground at the airport.
It would be nice to hear from a bunch of people on ST who purchased a ticket after July 17, have flown on delta since the purchased of that ticket, and what the result was when they brought their bike bag to the airport.
I flew at the end of July before I knew about this updated policy and it was a tale of two.
Leaving Los Angeles flying to Michigan – was charged $150
Leaving Michigan for Los Angeles – was charged $0 (mind you, I’m Delta Platinum and bags are free but not bike bag fees)
So, I got home, found this thread and called Delta to tell them about my $150 charge. They refunded my money and apologized. So, the policy does exist!!
I’m also flying tomorrow morning at 6am… we’ll see how it goes but I’ll definitely have all website info pulled up to show them.
here’s the bicycle policy per the website:
Bicycles… are allowed as checked baggage on most flights and fees … apply.Standard baggage allowance and fees based on cabin and travel region apply.Bicycles weighing over 50 lbs. will be charged the applicable excess weight fee.If outside linear dimensions (length + width + height) exceed 115 linear inches (292 cm) or exceeds 100 lbs item not accepted.Items in excess of baggage allowance will be subject to additional or overweight baggage fees.
the website agents say they have a “tool” for these questions and the tool says bikes checked as regular baggage. the first 2 points above tend to justify this. standard baggage allowance and fees apply. but… the dimensional statement simply says that anything over 115" is not allowed on the plane (not that it’ll get charged an excess fee). so, what about stuff under 115"? and more than 62". online agents say charged as regular bags.
nevertheless, i have a note in right now to Delta, i’ll get the answer back in writing. what i asked is:
- are bikes, in hard shell cases, under 50lb, charged as regular checked (not oversized) baggage?
- “Baggage Protection” (insurance) starts at $3,500. Are bikes that are lost given a price limit if Delta needs to reimburse the customer? is it $3,500? or something else?
we’ll see what they answer.
Flew Delta this weekend to a race and back. Checked by bike in soft shell scion tri case. Delta charged me the $30 bag fee, no extra charge. Agent explained regular luggage has the 62 inch limit but bikes good to 115â€. Also a 50 lb limit but they usually grace you up to 51 pounds. In this day and age of tracked luggage lost bags are extremely rare. Delta has always treated me very well, if you ever encounter a problem politely ask to speak to a “red coat agentâ€( a semi-supervisor). They are special trained and vetted to handled problems. Delta prides itself on treating people right.
Also just flew Delta to Nice this week with tickets booked after the policy change… 48 lbs, EVOC Pro bag, had to sign a liability waiver for a soft-sided bag. Counter lady initially said $30 (hometown to hub), but I reminded her the bag needed to be through-checked through two itineraries both Delta, so $60 (international, hometown to hub to Nice). She got frazzled in the process, and didn’t end up charging me for the bike!
Most people flying through my small hometown airport have bikes or skis with them, so glad they knew the policy!