Dear Forum Readers

I don’t charge you money for this forum, right? I don’t ask for anything much, do I? As there are hundreds, at least, reading at this very minute, I would like to ask you all… AGAIN… to do something for me. and for you. not many of you yet have. i’ll ask the question the way i did in an earlier post…

i ask you all to go right now to:

http://www.usatriathlon.org/Elections/2005_Bylaws.htm

click the link, and tell me if there is anything other than a pdf that has one set of bylaw changes in which ARTICLE XX and ARTICLE XXI, Section 4 are untouched, and wit the Sunshine Policy basically intact.

folks, please go there. go to the link. see if this is in fact the case and post back here.

To confirm from the other thread, I also see the document “USAT_Proposed_Bylaws.pdf” that leads off with “Proposal #1: Language of Proposed Amendment.”

It sounds like the same proposed changes you are looking at. The file I’m looking at is located here:

http://www.usatriathlon.org/Elections/USAT_Proposed_Bylaws.pdf

I see it. I’m still trying to read it.

Okay, I’ll play. XX and XXI. 4 show as unchanged. I don’t really know what the Sunshine Policy is so I can’t comment.

(By the way, why did I have to type in my credit card number and bank account to confirm my identity?..;))

Here’s a copy of the page that was displayed. I counted four different PDFs and one HTM page. Lots of content but I can’t comment on it’s completeness.

USAT Bylaw Referendums
(Adobe Acrobat Reader is required)

USA Triathlon members will be asked to vote on TWO referendums involving the USA Triathlon bylaws. These will be “yes or no” votes. If you vote yes, you will be voting FOR the USAT Board of Directors’ bylaw revisions. If you vote NO, you will be voting to keep the current bylaws as they stand.

Ballots will be sent in the mail to members and also published on the web site.

Read the current USA Triathlon bylaw

Read bylaws with proposed changes from USA Triathlon Board of Directors

Read the USA Triathlon Board of Directors’ platform for the bylaw changes

Read the Board of Directors’ explanation of the need for a change in the voting districts

Read the report of the USA Triathlon election task force

“I’m assuming you would like responses here, or are we just to assume that everyone who viewed the post visited the site?”

i would like responses here. i understand not everyone has the capacity to open a pdf, and not everyone can read roman numerals, but with a little effort and a few burned glucose molecules, we can get this done.

tell me if there is anything other than a pdf that has one set of bylaw changes in which ARTICLE XX and ARTICLE XXI, Section 4 are untouched, and wit the Sunshine Policy basically intact.

i went to the link, but i don’t know exactly what you’re looking for us to do. could you be more specific/clear? i want to help, i just don’t understand how.

That is what I am seeing as well.

It looks as you say to me.

Well, there are plenty of links on that page, but the link that pulls up http://www.usatriathlon.org/Elections/USAT_Proposed_Bylaws.pdf

I have checked, and I will confirm that Article XX says “no change” and Article XXI, Section 4 says “No change”. Article XXII: Sunshine Policy, seems to have significant text so I cannot verify whether it meets your definition of “basically intact” or not.

there, don’t say I never did anything for you!

Hi Dan,

I went and reviewed the bylaws and proposed revisions. This is definitely not my “forte”, what are we looking for?

As the above posters stated, seems to be as you stated.

Chris

O.K…yes, Article XX and XXI, are unchanged…

And the Sunshine Policy (as I loosely understand the controversy more than adequately discussed here) still has a rather “relaxed” system of minute reporting, no financial disclosure, yadda, yadda, yadda…

Should we have expected something different?

Agreed, it is as you describe
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Ok, assuming that the posted information is as you say, how do we know that it is representative of what is on the actual ballot, and which would have great (legal) weight? I am thinking the ballot.

Why wasn’t this information available 2 - 3 weeks ago? Again, it’s not so much the actual changes they (the BOD) are trying to make, but the way they are going about it.

aye, aye captain
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I see Article XX and XXI Section 4 as “no change”

-bcreager
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I get the exact same thing as TJ56, if that is what you want to know.

Browser: Mozilla Firefox 1.0

Adobe Acrobat 5.0

HTH
Brett

I looked at it and looks ok to me, though I am barely savy enough to figure that stuff out. G

As asked. Its as you described.

Slowman,

I agree with the statement that nothing “other than a pdf that has one set of bylaw changes in which ARTICLE XX and ARTICLE XXI, Section 4 are untouched, and wit the Sunshine Policy basically intact.”

However, following the link for “ USA Triathlon Board of Directors’ platform for the bylaw changes” a I see Proposal #2 which I gather, if approved, would allow changes to Article XX and Article XXI by a two-thirds majority of the board. See below: THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WISHES TO BE ABLE TO AMEND THE BYLAWS WITH A TWO-THIRDS VOTE OF THE BOARD, EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES: ARTICLE VII – BOARD OF DIRECTORS SECTIONS 1-5, 7 – GENERAL DIRECTORS, ELECTION DISTRICTS, TERMS AND TERM LIMITS, VACANCIES AND REMOVAL OF A DIRECTOR ARTICLE XXI – ELECTIONS ARTICLE XXII – SUNSHINE POLICY ** **IS THIS CORRECT???