1:22:03, 28th place (1st 50-54 male) at the Canyonlands half marathon. Apparently he has been having some problems with bursistis, but was okay to race on this day.
Kona comeback, I doubt it, but it is great to see a former champion who still loves to race, and is not afraid to go out and just have a good time.
I’d be willing to be bet it was a training run. Dave is much faster then that. If he can run a 2:45 off the bike in Kona then his open 1/2 marathon time would be more like 1:18 or so.
Yeah - I recall a few years ago I ran into Dave in January at the end of a 19 mile run - he had just been out to the Res where he ran 6x1 mile - my friend and I asked him how the workout went and he said it sucked and he couldn’t break 5:30 on any of the mile repeats. But - that is just Dave - he is one heck of an athlete even for a 50 year old.
I don’t think you guys are getting the fact that he is 50. He ran a 2:45 off the bike 20 years ago. He last finished Kona 8 years ago. Granted he did a nice half three years at Buffalo springs, he is getting old. I bet he could come back and maybe do a 9:30 IM if he put in a lot of training, but I really doubt if he was sandbagging when he did the 1:22.
I see Dave training pretty regularly - running with Simon Lessing - swimming with the best in town - and I am sure he will be still be able to bike around 4:55-5:10. He last ran a 2:45 in 1996 but the guy is in shape. 365 day a year. 9:30 for Dave? Ha! Now that is funny. That would mean a pretty slow bike split. I know he can swim :50, and run at the worst a 2:55-3:00 - so you think THE MAN will bike a 5:40? I don’t think he biked that on his first attempt in 1981. If you saw the guy on a regular basis you would have a different opinion. He is just Dave, the MAN.
maybe he is getting a bit older, but I don’t think he would get that much slower in a relatively short period of time…
1.22 for someone like Dave Scott is cruising pace…
I live in Boulder and meet him regularly around town. If you know him, you can spot him right away when he is running around, style, form even pace hasn’t changed a bit in the last years.
1:22 is definitly crusing pace, furthermore, Moab half is mostly downhill, a very fast race, he was jogging or had some kind of problem. Anybody that knows him, wouldn’t even question this.
Just curious, why you guys are so sure Dave can still go sub 3 off the bike in an IM, when he hasn’t finished one in the last 8 years. Only about 10-15 guys can do that now and they are in their prime. Same thing for a 50 flat swim, only 10-15 guys are that fast. I guess it is a good thing he is giving guys like Deboom and Reed a chance to win, like he did for Mark Allen.
Dave was a great athlete and is still better than most athletes half his age, but at 50 his best days are far behind him. If he could go 50, 2:55 like you say, and since a 5:40 would be a joke, lets give him 5 hours. 8:40, pretty good. Still top ten a lot of years at Kona, yeah that makes sense a 50 year old can finish top 10 in an open world championship.
Edwin Moses is talking about a comeback. He should have you guys set up a training program for him, because he should be able maintain his form at 50 as well as Dave. I mean Moses didn’t lose a race for ten years, which makes Dave 6 IM win’s pale in comparison.
I guess as you get older it is natural to discount its effects on performance. I guess it effects mind sooner than body for some.
Dude…helluva huge difference between an IM and a 400 meter hurdles. Physiologically a different animal my man! DS has the ticket to performing in the harsh Kona conditions…huge leg up on everyone else that toes the line.
Lothar Leder, Thomas Hellriegel, Norman Stadler, Olaf and Ingo Sabatschus, Siegi Ferstl, Timo Bratch,
Jurgen Zack, Markus Foster, Alex Taubert.
That’s already 10 guys who have run sub 3h recently…and notice I could pick 10 all being germans. So that means there is heck of a lot more than 10-15 guys able to run sub 3h…
there is also a heck of a difference between a 2h59 and a 2h51 or 2h49…