Ankiel used HGH
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Reports say he was using it before it was banned by MLB.
Oh…I guess that makes it right
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“Oh…I guess that makes it right”
Is HGH illegal? If it wasn’t illegal or banned in 2004, then yes, it’s alright that he was using it then.
“Oh…I guess that makes it right”
Is HGH illegal? If it wasn’t illegal or banned in 2004, then yes, it’s alright that he was using it then.
You are right, it was not illegal.
Cheating on your wife is not illegal, I assume that is OK also.
Well, if you want to make that comparison, I guess you could say that, absent a certain “undertanding,” cheating on your spouse is against the rules of your marriage. I mean, you do recognize the difference between something being illegal and something being against the rules.
Baseball didn’t prohibit HGH until 2005. Whether Ankiel’s “prescription” was illegal is another matter, and I havent’ heard sufficent facts one way or the other on this.
I do find it interesting that, in the article I read, it was mentioned that Ankiel hasn’t used HGH since baseball banned it. How did they come to that conclusion?
To me using HGH as a professional athlete is morally objectionable. To some people it is OK I guess. That is scary representation of the society we live in now.
Hmmm…I suppose I’ll have to wait a while though before hearing your thoughts on Andy Katzenmoyer’s ahem, academic, cough workload at OSU? Surely if using something that isn’t banned isn’t right, then the courses he took at OSU as a “student-athlete” are not either.
Katzenmoyers course load was reprehensible. One of the many things that lead to Cooper’s well deserved firing.
The OSU BTW
apology accepted, TIA
"To me using HGH as a professional athlete is morally objectionable. To some people it is OK I guess. That is scary representation of the society we live in now. "
People use HGH for various reasons, including recovery from injury. People also use a slew of various supplements and chemicals to enhance recovery from training, boost metabolism, aid in muscle building, etc. If the substances are not illegal, not against the rules, and everyone has equal access to them, I’m not sure why you would have such a moral objection to their use, especially if the athlete in question stops using them after they are banned.
Cheating on your wife is not illegal, I assume that is OK also.
That’s not at all analogous. Your marriage is not a competition in which one tries to outplay the other (at least I hope not).
Plenty of people use all sorts of nutritional supplements in order to boost their performance. Your use of HGH before its ban is no different than drinking powdered protein, taking creatine, amino acids, B-12, Tylenol, caffeine or lots of Flinstones vitamins, each of which are performance enhancing drugs.
A more accurate comparison would be to compare it to baseball players of the early 1900s who probably all beat their kids. No, it doesn’t make it OK, but it was considered socially acceptable back then and it would be unfair to fault them for it.
whatever…this guy gets a free pass, but bonds gets crucified.
it really was a racial thing
"whatever…this guy gets a free pass, but bonds gets crucified. "
Sooo…not interested in a grown up discussion?
just saying, what did this guy do any differently than bonds. yet because bonds isn’t nice to people he is crucified. using HGH in this context is wrong. it is a performance enhancing drug. just because it wasn’t banned, or illegal or whatever doesn’t make it right. the clear wasn’t banned either, so it must be OK to use.
“just saying, what did this guy do any differently than bonds.”
Well, I think the assumption (right or wrong) is that Bonds did steroids, which were banned, and possibly HGH after it was banned. Bonds is crucified partly because he’s an asshole, and partly because he was making an assault on the biggest record in MLB.
“using HGH in this context is wrong. it is a performance enhancing drug. just because it wasn’t banned, or illegal or whatever doesn’t make it right. the clear wasn’t banned either, so it must be OK to use.”
Then you’d better be ready to crap on every athlete that uses any performance enhancing substance. Tylenol for aches and pains, wrong. Creatine to help build muscle, wrong. Endurox to boost recovery, wrong. The clear is an anabolic steroid, which has been banned for some time. There’s not much question there, but if it hadn’t been illegal or banned, it would have been ok to use.
If the substance is not illegal, not banned, and therefore available to eveyone to use, what’s the problem?
I was not aware HGH is available over the counter like tylenol or advil.
“I was not aware HGH is available over the counter like tylenol or advil.”
Whether or not it’s over the counter makes no difference at all. If it’s legal, and it’s not banned, then every player has an equal ability to use it to improve their performance. That’s the very definition of NOT cheating.
Troy Glaus (according to what I just heard on ESPN) received banned steroids at his home. Interesting to see how this plays out in light of Ankiel.
Great point by Tim Kirkjian (sp) that just because people received shipments doesn’t prove use. It will in the court of public opinion for most, but won’t with the MLB.
Oh, and remember Gary Matthews Jr. got caught earlier this year.
And let’s not forget that no one even bothers to mention NFL use of HGH, just MLB.
And I loved hearing Romanowski on the radio last night. Talk about a guy who USED!!! and somehow is being allowed back to comment on sports and the NFL.
The use of banned substances or illegal drugs in our big sports leagues is rampant and pretty terrible, as far as I’m concerned. I’m certainly not defending any of that. It may even turn out that Ankeil was using a banned substance. I simply don’t think that hanging him based on his receipt of shipments of a substance that was NOT banned does anyone any favors.
Whether or not it’s over the counter makes no difference at all. If it’s legal, and it’s not banned, then every player has an equal ability to use it to improve their performance. That’s the very definition of NOT cheating.
OK, no getting through to you. I see your side. It is ok to alter your physical makeup by injecting a natural occurring hormone into your body because you want to improve your performance in sport at a faster rate.
Maybe I will just start shooting up my 6 year old with HGH so he can dominate the local T-ball circuit. It’s not banned or illegal, so what is the problem?
Keep walking around with your eyes closed.