Coaching

Good morning all,

I am new to the sport and want to make sure that my training is effective and will allow me to reach some pretty aggressive goals in this coming year. I am a very busy guy but will always make time to get out on the road or in the water. With that all being said, I wanted to find out if soem of you vets out there thought it would be a good idea to invest in some form of coaching and if so, what kind? OR is there some training tools/programs already established that I can reference online and use to structure my training. To be completely honest, I would really love to run an IM distance event in 2005. I have always been a runner and about 6 mos ago I saw a Tri event on TV where the athletes were crossing the finish line and I couldn’t help but to try and imagine what they felt like after completing such an accomplishment. So, here I am now addicted to triathlon or what I know of it so far.

I would just like an effective road map so as not to waste time or energy or risk overtraining or even injury along the way.

Would appreciate any insight.

Many many Thanks!!

The best thing a coach can bring to the table is an objective and educated viewpoint. This way there is someone that only has you and your success in mind. A good coach/ athlete relationship is built on communication and there can be a lot gained by the athlete by trusting the coach’s program.The learning curve is also shorter when working with a coach so success comes sooner and you get more out of your workouts without putting in junk miles. Just my .02! Good luck!

Welcome to the cult, amigo. Many people here will tell you that an IM in your first season is suicide. Others will proudly declare that their very first triathlon was an IM. A lot of your decision will depend on your personality as well as what you want to get out of it.

Personally, I believe in a slower build-up and would suggest that the optimal schedule for an IM is in year three or four at the earliest - that will give you a year of sprint distance racing perhaps ending with an Olympic, a year of sprint/Oly mixed racing, possibly peaking with a 1/2, and another year of one to three 1/2’s as well as the usual sprint/Oly races before you step up to the distance of a full IM. Believe me, there are a tonne of things to learn and to work on. As you go longer, nutrition and pacing become critical factors. Your body needs time to adjust to an 8-17hr day of exercise, and to the huge amount of training involved in racing an IM.

Being a runner, you have somewhat of an advantage - especially if you have a typical runner’s build. This is because it is the run that generally does the most damage given that it is the hardest on the body as well as that it starts when you’re already tired. Being a strong runner already will allow you to focus on swimming and cycling, while leaving your run in “maintenance mode”. It also means that you probably have a fairly good cardiovascular system. All of this makes your wish to do an IM in 2005 much more feasible.

If you are truly committed to completing an IM in 2005, your first year of racing, then a coach may prove to be invaluable. A good coach will steer you through many of the pitfalls us non-coached athletes make, and will allow you to make the most of your training time. (S)he will keep tabs on your progress and may be able to prevent overtraining as well as certain injuries. Search around and interview several coaches on their style, general philosophy, and personality. Find one that you like, respect, and can work with. The coach(es) of the best triathletes in the world might suck for you or me if we can’t communicate effectively. Rich Strauss has an excellent article on his website on choosing a coach: http://www.cruciblefitness.com

Having said all that, a coach is by no means necessary, even if you want to do an IM in 2005. It will be more difficult for you, but there are plenty of free plans floating around on the 'net to be had. “13 weeks to a 13hr IM” is a classic example.

If you have a tri club in your area, join it. Coach or no, you will learn a tonne from your fellow triathletes and will also have an additional source of motivation to get out and train on those days when you’d rather be in bed.

My overall recommendation is to wait a few years before jumping in to IM racing, and to just get out there and participate for the first year (uncoached) - but don’t let the ramblings of some strange dude on the internet stop you. Only you know how badly you want it, and whether or not you are willing to do what it takes. Assess yourself critically, and then make your decision based on a realistic judgement.

Khai,

Thanks for the warm welcome to your cult. So far I have really enjoyed it and continue to look forward to the coming yrs.

Secondly, I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. For the most part I share your thoughts. I have no misconceptions that this sport is very demanding and technical as well. But I am sticking to my goals of getting an IM distance done by end of 2005 which is why I really want to learn all I can as quickly as possible.

I was just looking at the “13 wks to a 13 hr IM”. Will likely get my hands on it. Also already in the process of getting hooked up with a local tri club. It’s amazing how supportive everyone in the tri community is. More than likely, if I can find an affordable coach for some detailed instruction and form crituqiu I’d entertain the idea. Otherwise, I may be forced to heeding the critique and advice of fellow triathletes which isn’t bad either. Getting into this a few months ago, I never would have thought it was going to be this challenging or enjoyable and I am referring to the trainign as well as just learning all there is to learn as a new guy.

Thanks again,

Good luck in your quest for your first IM but I have to agree with Khai with waiting for a year or two before you start an IM. I am in my second year and am doing IM Florida, I sincerely wish I would have waited untill next year. Also, you have to sign up a year ahead of time for an IM North America event, other events that go the distance can be much less expensive and you can sign up for them within a few months of the event.

I had a coach my first year and was taught a lot of the little tricks that you cannot learn from a book. This year I took over my own training and joined a tri club. The books I used are, Triathlon 101, Triathletes Training Bible, Going Long and I just got Gale Bernhardts book: Training Plans for Multisport Athletes. I believe that Gale Bernhardt writes the “13 wks to a 13 hr IM” but I may be mistaken.

If you don’t have many friends doing triathlon now, you will soon after your first race and the tri-club with make training much more fun.

jaretj

Sounds like you’re well on your way, bro. Keep that focus and I’m sure you’ll hit your goal. Make sure you keep us posted, too.

Good luck on your quest, and welcome in the “community”.

You may want to check gordo Byrn’s website and forum, if not already done. Lots of specific info on IM training and racing (gordoworld.com).

Have fun.

Laurent

Some thoughts:

  1. If new to the sport, a coach can be helpful, but there are many so called coachs out there and you need to be careful to find one that a) knows what they are doing and b) will mesh well with your needs and goals.

  2. I am in agreement with others that you may want to rethink the IM next year. I know that people don’t like it when I say this but, I would suggest a three year plan. Year 1: Focus on getting the basics and a good training base in each of the three sports. Find out what you are strong and weak at. Race a as many Olympic distance races and sprints as you like. Year 2: Focus on building up to a 1/2 IM race. If you have discovered a weakness in year 1, take 2 - 4 months in the off season and really focus on working on that sport and minimize the other two sports for that time period. Year 3: Focus on an IM distance race.

  3. There is a growing number of books out there that are great at getting at the basics of training. The best one that I have seen recently is Gordo Bryn and Joe Freil’s “Going Long”

just take epo or other ped’s, that’s what a good number of pro’s do to maximize training benefit.

Hmmm…this sounds like a pretty common sense approach. I think finding a coach is really going to be a good idea especially if I want to remain somewhat aggressive with my training and goals.

Thanks to all for your valuable insight. Believe me it helps and is very appreciated. I am jsut glad to be doing this all withOUT a pack on my back and in extreme weather conditions! I would appreciate if anyone had a copy of this 13 wks to a sub 13 hr that they could send. amark303@aol.com

What are epo’s and ped’s that Ben in FL mentioned?

In my case, it makes it possible to get to the next level (CA TT championships), which is very difficult for me - trying to figure it out on my own

Going from a 58 to a 54 minute 40k is tough to do without guidance
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Semper. This is my first full year of Triathlon. I am now tapering for IMFL. I use CTS and they have helped me a great deal. I usually place in the top 10-15 percent in races. I would highly reccomend CTS. They are for athletes that dont need hand holding. They just supply you with a workout and it is up to you to do it. There is interaction. I speak wih my coach every 2 weeks or so. I email him as often as needed. go to www.trainright.com. If you have further questions feel free to ask.