advantages/disadvantages of each? i use a small threaded innovations pump with 16g cartridges and it works fine, but i’m wondering if i had to buy it over again if threadless would be better. thoughts?
I use non threaded to train with because they are much cheaper. You can get a box of 24 at the local sporting goods store. The threaded are better to bring with you for a race. My adapter can use both threaded and non threaded.
thanks. what’s the reason that a threaded is better to race with? more dependable or something? until recently i only owned a CO2 pump and had to use that to top off my tires before rides (my old crappy floor pump wouldn’t go over about 50psi) and got really tired of spending $5 for 3 cartridges.
i now have a floor pump (thanks LBS for the perfect sale on every item i needed) so it’s not really an issue, but i’m just curious as to why they make both kinds.
For races, you can get a Microflate, which is smaller and lighter, but only works with threaded cartridges.
Perhaps this is a strange question, but am I the last person on earth that actually carries (and uses if necessary) a regular silca hand-operated frame pump? or a mini pump (mtb)?
A cartridge?? Unless you are a pro (where every bloody second counts) or have very weak arms, why can’t a hand pump work fine? And why would anyone in their right mind use CO2 cartriges for training???
Threaded C02’s are usually 16grams and non threaded are usually 12 gram. 16 grams will fill your tire to 110ish psi and 12grams will fill to 90psi.
On a training ride 90 psi will get you home fine. I think I may have paid like $10 for 24 C02’s non threaded.
actually all the shops around me have 16g and 12g threaded, so i figure there must be something else. is one more efficient than the other or something?
I have both. I race with the threaded, lighter. Be sure you are wearing gloves with these. Unthreaded cheaper better for training.
i used to use a frame pump and it worked great, but then it was stolen with my bike. my LBS recommended the CO2 pump when i bought my bike.
i have the innovations microflate and love it, just wish cartridges were cheaper.
You can use the non-threaded variety in a pellet-gun to shoot at your competition. Also cheaper and more available if you get lots of flats.
so everything i’m hearing points to non threaded as the way to go. same performance out of both, but non threaded is cheaper.
so thanks for everyone’s info. just found out my job is being moved overseas so i’m gonna bike home now, probably faster than usual. hopefully i don’t have to use my pump.
peace out.
I still use a micro pump (Blackburn Airstick 1), and it’s never held me back. I’ve been fortunate to not flat in a race, but in training, I can change out a flat in 2 minutes or less, including airing up the tire. So what’s the advantage? I figure if I flat in a rae, though, it’s over anyway… (non-IM situation).
I used a co2 for the first time yesterday. the glove is a good recommendation. that sombich got cold in a hurry and about stuck to my hand.
Non-threaded CO2 cartridges can be found for really cheap, but if you’re a high PSI kind of person you’ll need 2 to satisfy. I use them because I don’t really mind riding slightly less pressure if I have to.
For training though, I carry my trusty Zefal HPX. I went full circle from the HP in the 80’s, to the Blackburn mini in the 90’s, to CO2, and back to my trusty frame pump. It simply can’t be beat.
I have a threaded CO2 pump if anyone wants it. Free. Just get it from me.
I will be at WF, AIT and the half Vineman. Anyone that wants it can have it. Let me know.
I use non-threaded, cheap, cheap, cheap.
Get the 12 gram ones for BB guns, they are WAY cheaper. Save the 16 grammers for races.
A cartridge?? Unless you are a pro (where every bloody second counts) or have very weak arms, why can’t a hand pump work fine? Sure, a pump can work fine, but I’ll never use one again - CO2 rocks!Plus, I hate the way pumps look on a frame.
The people at Innovations will tell you that you shouldn’t use the CO2 you can buy at Walmart or the sporting goods stores because they contain a small amount of oil used for lubrication and that this oil will eventually break down the tube.
I’m not sure if I believe them. They obviously want you to buy their CO2.
What a bizarre coincidence. My name is Bryce D as well… Thats just surreal.
The key word there is “eventually”. How long do your tubes last. I would think the tube will wear out before the small amount of oil has any effect.
J.