anybody train on these? or just for race day?
I train on mine (Hed H3) occasionally (usually when I’m too lazy to take them off after a race); they are certainly durable enough. The reason I don’t use them as my main training wheels is the concern about damaging them in a crash or on a pothole (a lot more $$ to replace than a beater training wheel).
anybody train on these? or just for race day?
Well, as with all race wheels, training on them seems to be a relatively useless endeavor. Training on race wheels is like driving your Porsche to the grocery store. You can do it, but it might be overkill.
I train frequently on my Corima carbon 4-spokes. They are bombproof, so why not? As for the argument that you shouldn’t train on your race wheels because they will cost more to replace in case you crash, by the same logic you shouldn’t race on them either.
I train frequently on my Corima carbon 4-spokes. They are bombproof, so why not? As for the argument that you shouldn’t train on your race wheels because they will cost more to replace in case you crash, by the same logic you shouldn’t race on them either.
yeah, but then again you have FOUR spokes, which is safe to use in training. THREE spokes on the other hand …
i think most of us do more training miles than race miles, so the chance of wrecking your wheels while training is higher. it also looks awkward. i’m always having a fun time watching those triathletes doing 15 mph riding expensive bikes with zipp wheels. gotta love them triathletes … anyone training with an aero helmet?
You can do it, but it might be overkill.
especially when you can buy a brand new pair of askiums for the rim repair cost (or about $200)…
race wheels for races. training wheels for training.
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We need to agree to disagree…
I use racing wheels to train and race on. That said I train on a set of HEDJet90’s and race a BW100/Zipp disc. I like riding nice wheels. In 19 years of training and racing I’ve broken 1 spoke and never damaged a wheel, even in a crash. That 1 spoke was on a cheap set of Spinergys going uphill in a 34-27 gear, standing and going as hard as I could at 5mph! It was very steep!!
I trained on HED3’s every day for probably 8 years without a single problem with them. I had a set that was over 13 years old and they were good as new.
Right, definitely more training miles than race miles – about 10K annually of the former for me, and only 1-1.5K of the latter. Unfortunately, the chances of busting a wheel (or the whole bike) are much higher in races. (Reading your lines, I have a feeling you’ve never done a crit in your life.) And as for athletes getting passed doing 15mph training rides on Zipps, well, they may have super-deep pockets, suffer from equipment overkill, go by the “life-is-too-short-to-ride-crap-wheels” mantra, or a combination of all three. At any rate, my speedo says my historical average (over the 25K+ miles on the odometer) is just over 22mph, so I don’t worry about these things much…
Greg, so where is the line between a training wheel and a race wheel?
I think the answer is a function of one’s income. For a grad student drowning in college loans, Aksiums are race wheels. For an AIG executive, especially after the bailout, they are disposable training wheels…
(Reading your lines, I have a feeling you’ve never done a crit in your life.)
i’m afraid your feeling is wrong, having raced MTB, track, road, cyclocross and tri at national and international level for the past 9 years
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I use my Hed 3 to train on all the time, unless on a trainer (do not want to wear the good tyres out. What is the point in spending all that money just to race on them now and again. I use them in all types of weather even higher winds. Yes you get pushed about on cross winds but you fly when the wind is behind you. It is also good to get used to them, never know what the weather conditions are on race day.I have had them for a few years now with little problems, changed front bearings once.use them enjoy them.
One small rock in the right place= ruined wheel,how do i know? i have a real nice trispoke with no miles ruined by a small rock…Would you rather replace a $200.00 or a $800.00 wheel?
I think the situation of training on race wheels is somewhat analogous to marrying a supermodel. Sure, it sounds fun, but sooner or later its gonna get expensive.
Maybe, though in racing an H3C is ultra-sexy, a sexy *training *wheel is a custom-crafted, heavily-spoked hand built work of art.
Race like this:
(though, maybe without the mankini. You rock, Faris)
Train like this:
Ok 15 mph is fairly pedesterian and maybe another good reason not to be training on race wheels is that apparently there are people out there who are going to judge you and your equipment when you ight just be doing an innocent recovery ride. If you ride on training wheels people won’t hink a thing but if you are on zipps you will be considered as a poser.
On the frequency of use I agree, the more you use them the bigger the chance that they will get damaged, also as they are stiffer, have better hubs, lighter and are more areo you get the important go fast feel and are actually faster on race day. which feels good
wow with that as you average over 25 K miles you must comfortably ride under 5 hours for IM, what sort of approach do you take to bike training as your training average equates tor a very competive age group IM bike time
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