I am in the market for a tri bike and was planning to get the P2k. I just noticed that cannondale now has the ironman 2000 and 5000 redesigned with a much more aero looking frame. I can’t seem to find a price on the new IM 2000, however I think it might be a better bike than the P2k. Anyone have any info/ thoughts on the 2004 cannondale/ any aero information to compare it to the cervelo? Also does anyone know if you can purchase cannondale’s frames seperately and if so where from?
“I think it might be a better bike than the P2K.”
I doubt it. It will though, almost definetly cost more for what you get.
I think Ze Gopha is right. The new Cannondale reminds me of one of those bikeparts.net cheapies.
Any dealer who carries Cannondale complete bikes should be able to get a frameset. I’m not sure how they will offer it, though. Last year they only offered the 5000 as a frameset but I believe the BB shell requires a Hollowgram crankset. Selling a frame with a proprietary BB system doesn’t make any sense to me. My email requesting clarification from Cannondale went unanswered.
… Also does anyone know if you can purchase cannondale’s frames seperately and if so where from?
Well, I had Thomas Hellriegels new cdale IM5000 at my own hands before xmas. It came as a frame and I’d say everyone could buy this as just a frame. I could give you the address of this dealer but as this is in Germany it would probably not help you. If you want to know the name of the dealer look into the last triathlete magazine at the article about the IM Hawaii 2003 at the picture of Faris al-sultan where the name can be seen of the fork of his cdale IM5000 bike.
regards,
Frank
Cannondales are not very well made…IMHO
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I now have a Litespeed Blade and a Cervelo P3. Both are great bikes. However I have had five Cannondales in the past and have nothing bad to say about any of them. All of them I bought as frame only and built myself.
Aloha,
Larry
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I would be interested in learning your reasoning behind this. TIA
Brett
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The one and only tri bike I’ve ever had is a 1999 Cannondale MS 2000. I’ve used it for everything from sprint duathlon’s to ironman’s and I’ve never - ever - had a problem.
Have you?
john,
Dan had nothing but praise for the cannondale bottom bracket when he reviewed the bike. Because it is "oversized’’ versus a design size I believe he stated was 70+ years old, it transfered your efforts to the rear much more efficiently. His opinon as I remember, was that manufacturers need to step up and and make the change to larger BBs. You may find in the future as more american companies are producing components that BB size will change. Read Felt, Softride, Cervelo(I know). Also, there already are crank manufacturers that are making proprietery BB for their cranks.
Happy new year all,
Brian
ps. the review may have been in Triathlete mag not here.
I agree that the Hollowgram design works great. It rivals the new Dura-Ace system for light weight and stiffness. My question is why a manufacturer would sell a bike as a frame only if there is only one type of crank that will fit it. The whole advantage of buying a frame only is that you can put whatever parts you want to on it. It would be kind of like selling a frame that required a proprietary 0.75" fork steerer tube, but not including the fork with the frame. A proprietary crank makes sense to me on a complete bike, but not on a frame only.
I would agree that an industry standard for larger bottom bracket shells makes sense. Certainly more than a lot of other recent “innovations”. FSA has been pushing it for a few years but it has yet to be widely adopted.