California Republicans be careful what you wish for!

Us Bay Area libs have known for years that we’ve been carrying your lazy good for nothing butts for years, but now the analysis has been done and the facts are in. We pay far more in state taxes than you do and you take far more in state services than we do.

http://www.sfgate.com/...02/05/MNGS15O7NI.DTL

Biggest taxpayers


Marin County: $4,793
San Mateo County: $4,232
San Francisco County: $3,578
Santa Clara County: $3,264
Placer County: $2,540

Biggest spenders for services


Tulare County: $2,223
Modoc County: $2,216
Lake County: $2,055
Yuba County: $2,049
Fresno County: $2,030

Source: Legislative Analyst’s Office

I’m not sure why they should be concerned about it. Sounds to me, assuming you’re of the belief that Reps believe they should be self sufficient and not tax others money, that they are asking for exactly what they believe in despite the fact it would hurt them and benefit others.

I’m not saying this is the truth but if they actually do as they propose it sounds like the right thing to do and would be living by what you espouse.

From the article.

“My Republican colleagues from these counties are the ones who want to propose an all-cuts budget (even though) the burden primarily falls on their own constituents,” she said. “And that they oppose new revenues (even though) the burden falls primarily on Democratic constituents.”

Now if you’re assuming that they are out to get everything they can than the above makes no sense, but if you truly believe smaller government is the answer, then it makes complete sense and is EXACTLY what needs to be done.

Frankly I look at it as very honorable and a great example. I’d like to see more people act that way rather than whining about how they have something I don’t have so they should be taxed more.

~Matt

Reps believe they should be self sufficient? But the Republican districts in the state have for years been the biggest users of services and the smallest donors of taxes, when exactly did this change of heart take place? and when are they going to pay us bay area liberal back all that money we sent their way? and when are they going to support a constitutional amendment to require that all counties get funding from the state based upon the revenues raised from that county…if Republicans are all so self sufficient and all.

And if you think its honorable that wealthy Republican legislators want to cut services for their poor constituents, do you think its equally honorable that people in the Bay Area are willing to tax themselves to make sure those poor rural Republicans do not lose their health clinics and day care centers?

Reps believe they should be self sufficient? But the Republican districts in the state have for years been the biggest users of services and the smallest donors of taxes, when exactly did this change of heart take place?

Have no idea but of they follow thru with what they want then it would seem that it has. Also there’s the possibility that it’s always been there but due to the fact they aren’t in control it never got passed.

**nd when are they going to support a constitutional amendment to require that all counties get funding from the state based upon the revenues raised from that county…if Republicans are all so self sufficient and all. **

No idea, I don’t live in CA. You might want to ask them.

**And if you think its honorable that wealthy Republican legislators want to cut services for their poor constituents, do you think its equally honorable that people in the Bay Area are willing to tax themselves to make sure those poor rural Republicans do not lose their health clinics and day care centers? **

No not really because “Taxing” IMO is not honorable. It would definitely be honorable if the people in the bay took the money they saved by not being taxed and applied it directly to building and supporting health clinics in poorer areas. It’s called charity.

~Matt

Matt, can we send 50,000 illegals up to your counties for you to take care of.

Do you think there are more undocumented people in San Francisco County or Yuba County?

I don’t know but there are a shit load of them in Kings, Fresno and Tulare. Not just illegals but first generation legal. They are needed for labor, have a right to be here and all that, but they require a lot of care. They also have pretty high birth rates so little rinky dink cities out in the middle of nowhere are forced to add new schools and medical clinics. I don’t think the high tax paying counties you cite are similarly impacted. Of course the taxes paid are lower in the rural counties you cite, the average wages are some of the lowest in the state. This is a pretty dumb thread. Pretty elitist on your part.

…if Republicans are all so self sufficient and all.

It seems to make perfect sense. After all, don’t liberals tax and spend while republicans don’t tax, still spend? I thought that was how the partiy platforms were defined. I don’t see any inconsistencies, especially since they are spending on themselves.

Elitist?

Who knew statistics could be elitist?

I think the point is that the call to lower taxes disproportionately hurts largely Republican constituencies. Whether it’s at the county level in California or the state level nationwide, “blue” areas pay more in taxes, and “red” areas take in more in federal revenue. It doesn’t matter whether the “red” areas need or deserve the higher revenues: lowering taxes means that “red” areas will have less money to provide those new schools and medical clinics. I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard a Republican politician cite this fact when calling for lower taxes, for good reason. Unless, of course, they are calling for lowering taxes on only the lower income people and not lowering taxes on higher income people. Gosh, where did I hear that? Why, from Democrats! Imagine that.

Let me break it down for you.

Biggest taxpayers Some of wealthiest people in the state live in these counties. Of course they pay more taxes, they are loaded. They run democrat.


Biggest spenders for services These are rural, agricultural counties that are some of the poorest in the state. They run somewhat republican.


So Matt concludes the counties that run republican use more services and I guess this is some kind of gotcha.

Do you think there are more undocumented people in San Francisco County or Yuba County?

As a percentage of population? Hands down Yuba.

I think the point is that the call to lower taxes disproportionately hurts largely Republican constituencies.

What it will hurt is the illegals and first generation Mexican immigrants that happen to reside in Republican constituencies.

Often the difference is largely due to smaller population vs amount of roadway that has to be maintained.  Think of this as an investment that allows you to get the hell out of those places so you can be with "good" people.  That should help.

Oh come on, you know that summer home in Yuba County sounds awsome!

I think the point is that the call to lower taxes disproportionately hurts largely Republican constituencies.

What it will hurt is the illegals and first generation Mexican immigrants that happen to reside in Republican constituencies.
Fine. Then what? Are those illegals and first gens there for the waters, or are there they there doing work? Who does the work when they leave? Or do they stay and clog up the hospital ERs, thereby costing even more money? And, of course, their kids don’t get educated, and the cycle continues.

The rest of the country does not feel sorry for California. You did it to yourself.

Cuz Im praying for rain
And Im praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Dont just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.
I cant imagine why you wouldnt
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.

Bay Area,

You keep your money, and we’ll keep our water, food, and energy.

Let’s talk next week about the new costs structure for these things.

Lazy counties.

You keep your money, and we’ll keep our water, food, and energy.
I’m sure some other states, like Colorado, would love to say the same thing to California regarding some of those things. You okay with that?