Gatorade Endurance has none of the crap that regular mass produced Gatorade has. Or any of the Clifbar products. Neither are usually sold in food stores and are sold as powders.
I didn’t know that about Gatorade Endurance. Thanks.
You can order Gatorade Endurance directly from Gatorade! You can also get Gatorade in a “can” from them as well!
Dawn,
You can also modify taste of any drink with a little bit of Crystal Light. I did that with my daughter when she started using Cytomax (she spikes and crashes with Gatorade). Now we don’t bother with CL, but in the beginning it helped immeasurably with the taste for her.
Thanks, but wouldn’t Crystal Light have the same problem as G2 with the artificial sweeteners?
It’s not the carbs they need, but the sodium and potassium.
At the risk of having this thread banished to the main forum, your kids don’t need the sodium and potassium. Unless they’ve introduced the 30 mile run into track meets since I last ran track in 1980, or extended soccer games to 4 one-hour quarters, your kids and everyone else has plenty of sodium and potassium to make it through a couple of hours of exercise.
I don’t agree with you, but I’m basing it solely on my own experience and the research I’ve done for myself. If they do not have some kind of electrolyte replacement drink during their volleyball tournaments, they invariably get a headache by the end of the day and quite often will get foot cramps. Once I started having them use Gatorade or some other kind of drink through the day, those symptoms went away. I have found similar problems with my own training. I will always get a headache if I run for 45 minutes or more without some kind of electrolyte replacement.
By the way, I sweat very heavily. I will come back from a 45 minute run, in cold weather, and my head will be completely soaked with sweat. My daughters seem to have inherited this trait.
If you don’t think it’s electrolytes that they need, what do you think is causing these symptoms? Keep in mind that throughout the day of a volleyball tournament, they are playing hard core volleyball for 45 - 60 minutes per match three to six times per day.
I don’t agree with you, but I’m basing it solely on my own experience and the research I’ve done for myself. If they do not have some kind of electrolyte replacement drink during their volleyball tournaments, they invariably get a headache by the end of the day and quite often will get foot cramps. Once I started having them use Gatorade or some other kind of drink through the day, those symptoms went away. I have found similar problems with my own training. I will always get a headache if I run for 45 minutes or more without some kind of electrolyte replacement.
By the way, I sweat very heavily. I will come back from a 45 minute run, in cold weather, and my head will be completely soaked with sweat. My daughters seem to have inherited this trait.
If you don’t think it’s electrolytes that they need, what do you think is causing these symptoms? Keep in mind that throughout the day of a volleyball tournament, they are playing hard core volleyball for 45 - 60 minutes per match three to six times per day.
I’ve measured my sweat rate at an ounce per minute on the bike (yes, that’s almost half a gallon per hour) and a pound per mile on the run. I know sweat. I’ve had people behind me in a paceline looking up at the blue sky and wondering where the rain was coming from. My kids (and wife) won’t come near me after I’ve exercised. The dog is another story…
Cramps are not from lack of electrolytes, they are from lack of fitness. I’ve gotten calf cramps 20 minutes into an open water swim, and I’m a very good swimmer. That’s from lack of fitness: my calves were not accustomed to being contracted for that long (to keep my toes pointed).
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the sugar and/or just the fluid replacement that prevents the headaches. A healthy human has a huge store of sodium (and potassium, I suspect) that just can’t be depleted during reasonable exercise.
It might be an interesting experiment if you could mix up two batches of sugary fluids that taste about the same, but one with and one without extra electrolytes, and have someone give you one without you knowing which before a run, and see what happens.
With that duration, they are probably losing electrolytes and the sports drink is helpful.
Thanks, but wouldn’t Crystal Light have the same problem as G2 with the artificial sweeteners?
The difference is that G2 uses artificial sweeteners in lieu of carbs (sugars), making it a “low-cal sports drink”. What I would do is make Cytomax according to the directions, then just add a little bit of the Crystal Light to tweak the flavor. Doing this should not alter the calorie composition per fluid ounce of the Cytomax (other than maybe a tiny, negligible change). So, while you’ve added a small amount of some artificial sweeteners, you’re not replacing the “good stuff” that you wanted to get from Cytomax or whatever other drink you’re making.
You would still add artificial sweeteners through. CL is crap just like any diet beverage. You could just drink diluted cytomax or diluted powdered gatorade or any sports powder drink mix. If you need to make it sweeter you can always add some natural stevia and avoid artificial sweeteners altogether.
Gatorade has removed HFCS from their products in the last couple of months. PepsiCo has pledged to try and lose all of the HFCS in all of their products in upcoming years.
Drew
Now this is interesting.
…Pickle juice had “relieved a cramp 45 percent faster” than drinking no fluids and about 37 percent faster than water, concluded the authors of the study, which was published last month on the Web site of the journal of the American College of Sports Medicine.
a number of laboratory and field studies in recent years have undermined the dehydration theory. The most recent, completed by the same group of scientists who studied pickle juice, employed a similar study design. A group of college students had cramps induced in their toes. They then pedaled with one leg until dehydration set in. Their toes were made to cramp again, Presumably if dehydration were the underlying cause of the cramping, the scientists should have been able to induce a cramp with less electrical stimulation when the men were dehydrated; their muscles should have been primed to cramp. But the experiment didn’t work out that way. As detailed last month in the journal Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, the scientists had to use the same amount of stimulation to induce a cramp after dehydration as they had before. Their conclusion? “Exercise-induced cramps occurring to athletes” who are mildly dehydrated “were likely not caused by dehydration,” says Kevin C. Miller, Ph.D., ATC, the lead author of both studies and now an assistant professor in the Athletic Training Education Program at North Dakota State University in Fargo.
What, then, does probably cause athletes to cramp? The pickle-juice experiment provides some intriguing clues. “The pickle juice did not have time” to leave the men’s stomachs during the experiment, Dr. Miller points out. So the liquid itself could not have been replenishing lost fluids and salt in the affected muscles. Instead some other mechanism must have initiated the cramps and been stymied by the pickle juice.
Dr. Miller suspects that that mechanism is exhaustion, either directly or through biochemical processes that accompany fatigue. Certain mechanisms within muscles have been found, in animal and limited human studies, he says, to start misfiring when a muscle is extremely tired. Small nerves that should keep the muscle from overcontracting malfunction, and the muscle bunches when it should relax. Pickle juice may work, Dr. Miller says, by countermanding the malfunction. Something in the acidic juice, perhaps even a specific molecule of some kind, may be lighting up specialized nervous-system receptors in the throat or stomach, he says, which, in turn, send out nerve signals that somehow disrupt the reflex melee in the muscles. Dr. Miller suspects that ultimately, it’s the vinegar in the pickle juice that activates the receptors. In a recent case report by other researchers, a single athlete’s cramping was relieved more quickly when he drank pure vinegar (without much pleasure, I’m sure) than when he drank pickle juice.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/phys-ed-can-pickle-juice-stop-muscle-cramps/
Anxiously awaiting Gatorade’s new formulation: GV (available in red wine or apple cider).
“Dr. Miller suspects that that mechanism is exhaustion, either directly or through biochemical processes that accompany fatigue”
A shocking finding, I tell you. Who would have thought that exhaustion could cause cramps?
It’s been found that merely a carbohydrate mouthwash can increase glycogen release from stores, so the presence of carbohydrates in the mouth tells the brain “food is on the way,” and so the brain releases more glycogen from the depleted stores in advance of any carbs actually getting into the digestive system.
So how would that help to explain the results of the vinegar experiment, where no carbohydrates were present?
So how would that help to explain the results of the vinegar experiment, where no carbohydrates were present?
The carbohydrate stimulus finding suggests that such trigger mechanisms as the one the study author posits do exist, not that carbohydrates have anything to do with cramps.
Ah, I see. Interesting. I wonder how many mg/dcl the blood sugar levels were raised, on average, in these trigger studies.
I don’t agree with you, but I’m basing it solely on my own experience and the research I’ve done for myself. If they do not have some kind of electrolyte replacement drink during their volleyball tournaments, they invariably get a headache by the end of the day and quite often will get foot cramps. Once I started having them use Gatorade or some other kind of drink through the day, those symptoms went away. I have found similar problems with my own training. I will always get a headache if I run for 45 minutes or more without some kind of electrolyte replacement.
By the way, I sweat very heavily. I will come back from a 45 minute run, in cold weather, and my head will be completely soaked with sweat. My daughters seem to have inherited this trait.
If you don’t think it’s electrolytes that they need, what do you think is causing these symptoms? Keep in mind that throughout the day of a volleyball tournament, they are playing hard core volleyball for 45 - 60 minutes per match three to six times per day.
Cramps are not from lack of electrolytes, they are from lack of fitness. I’ve gotten calf cramps 20 minutes into an open water swim, and I’m a very good swimmer. That’s from lack of fitness: my calves were not accustomed to being contracted for that long (to keep my toes pointed).
You arent excluding dehydration are you or was this just addressing electolytes specifically?
I don’t agree with you, but I’m basing it solely on my own experience and the research I’ve done for myself. If they do not have some kind of electrolyte replacement drink during their volleyball tournaments, they invariably get a headache by the end of the day and quite often will get foot cramps. Once I started having them use Gatorade or some other kind of drink through the day, those symptoms went away. I have found similar problems with my own training. I will always get a headache if I run for 45 minutes or more without some kind of electrolyte replacement.
By the way, I sweat very heavily. I will come back from a 45 minute run, in cold weather, and my head will be completely soaked with sweat. My daughters seem to have inherited this trait.
If you don’t think it’s electrolytes that they need, what do you think is causing these symptoms? Keep in mind that throughout the day of a volleyball tournament, they are playing hard core volleyball for 45 - 60 minutes per match three to six times per day.
Cramps are not from lack of electrolytes, they are from lack of fitness. I’ve gotten calf cramps 20 minutes into an open water swim, and I’m a very good swimmer. That’s from lack of fitness: my calves were not accustomed to being contracted for that long (to keep my toes pointed).
You arent excluding dehydration are you or was this just addressing electolytes specifically?
Both. I was fully hydrated.
I don’t believe the law would ban “Gatorade” per se.
The wording is that the following would be allowed:
(E) An electrolyte replacement beverage that contains no more than 42 grams of added sweetener per 20-ounce serving.
My guess is that Gatorade will stock the machines with a product that is complicit. Make up a new one if they must. ** Beer used to be produced with varying alcohol content** to match the difference in state laws.
Been to Utah lately? 