BSG Finale Friday

Don’t forget. It’s a 2 hour show Friday night. You can catch a preview at the scifi channel website.

I’m both looking forward to it and dreading it. That and Lost are my only two shows so I’ll be down to one. The first two seasons of BSG rocked. The last two have been okay but not near as good. I hope the final does the series justice. I’d be thrilled if they kill Baltar off in the first few minutes. I’ve come to dislike him in every scene.

Here’s my take on what’s going to happen. That singularity near the Cylon base? It’s going to take the humans back in time to where they and the cylons will be the ones populating earth, the 13th colony. Remember Leobon saying “all this has happened before and it will all happen again?” In order for the cycle to be broken and the planet to not get destroyed in 2,000 years, someone, my guess is Starbuck, will have to sacrifice themselves.

Ron D. Moore said at the begining of the show that there was not going to be time travel on this show unlike Star Trek. Who knows, maybe he changed his mind.
What I didn’t like is that we lost most of the previous episode in flash backs that don’t add anything to the story, like Lee with the frigging pigeon.
But yeah, I’m looking forward to finally “know the truth”.

Trifan: I agree, not so much about the time travel, but the singularity will play a part. Either as the final destruction of the “bad” Cylons, or as some wormhole into a parallel universe where we reside.

Maui: The flashbacks have to play a part come tonight. The drunk Lee is either that he was the driver that killed Laura’s family (and I hope not, that kind of close connection works on LOST and not on BSG) or it is tied to the love affair with Starbuck and perhaps the death of brother Adama (can’t remember name). Lee comes out of that first dinner drunk and something happened, I think he and Kara fell in love then, not after his brother’s death.

Not a spoiler, but the reviews of the final I have seen have been lukewarm, that it answers many questions but not all. So I am fearing a Sopranos.

I believe that the little girl , Hera, is the key to everything. The fact that she exists for the first time, and is unlike no other, means to me she is going to be pivotal in the outcome. It would not surprise me to find she “knows” everything already.

By the way, you guys might like this video (or not). James Olmos at some UN conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSFDrOxWCXY

I’ve already told the kids that we’re ordering pizza for dinner and staying glued to the idiot box for this one. I keep hoping that Starbuck is an fallen angel but doesn’t know it, and that we find out that Baltar is the only real human and that all along the Cylons have just been screwing with him.

SPOILERS

Well it’s over. I don’t know whether I am depressed because it’s over or because of how the finale ended.

Let me start with the first half of the show - Great. Everything you expect from BSG, even the lines from Baltar about God, the Chief seeing his wife killed and then his reaction. And then they jump…

Here is where I start having problems:

Baltar lives. In a corny show the bad guy always gets killed so you expected Baltar to finally get his. I wish he would have.

Kara - She’s there and then she’s not. I would have liked some clarification on who/what she was. I would have liked for a better final scene between her and Lee.

The Admiral and Rosilyn. So very sad. To see Bill on the hill talking to himself with Rosilyn’s grave nearby was awful. She was such a strong character you just never believed she would die.

The last two minutes, 150,000 years later. The Angels walking around the new “earth” hoping to avoid the old fates. All the history of BSG, all the people that put their lives on the line, all traces of history, gone, except for Hera. What a downer. To be fair BSG was never about smiles and grins. It was about conflict, pain and most of all hope. To have BSG go out in a party atmosphere would have been wrong. What great scifi.

“What great scifi.”

It’s not “scifi” anymore. Now it’s “SyFy.” Even the nerds are going soft.

Well, I am a little disappointed too. One, once again, Chief Tyrol commits a completely selfish act (he couldn’t wait until the info transfer was complete and the truce sealed?) and gets away scot free. I know it must have been painful, but his revenge almost cost all of humanity.

I kind of like the “missing link” aspect. I think that’s what Hera represents, and the survivors as well. At some point in our history we may a evolutionary jump, and I liked that part.

I’m with you though, Baltar shouldn’t get to live happily ever after, with no guilt or consequences.

Kara was an Angel too.

Baltar: this was the redemption of this character. In fact in the flashback scene with 6, we see that Baltar gave her access to capric’as computers not for sex or greed, but in part due to her helping his father find a comfotable living situation. In the end, Balter said that “he knew something about farming”, refering to his poor, farming childhood and accepting who he really is.

Kara: Ronald D. Moore left this to our own interpetations. But rest assure Kara did die, she did have a destiny and she did come back as either a angel or whatever to lead humanity to its end, earth , our earth. In the end it was not really about her and Lee, it was about her and anders and her destiny and all the pain she had dealt with as a child (when she said goodbye to anders, he wispered back to her “see you on the other side”).

Adama & Laura: yea , that was sad. Yet Laura fulfilled her role as " the dying leader taking them to earth". Adama had lead them thru so much too, he was done and had lost someone he truly loved.

150,0000 years later: except hera wasn’t forgotten, she was the “micocitidia (sp?) eve” and the mother of us, present day humans/cylons. This actually moved the balltestar universe into our universe.

Despite the harshness, the hardships, the terrible journey humankind and cyclons took, in the end there was hope, that the cycle had been broken and that history, in the case of cylon killing human, would end.

Great, great sci-fi !!

Some part of me wanted to see a/the scene where the humans thanked the Centurians that fought with them and showed them giving them their freedom and the base ship.

Some part of me wanted to see a/the scene where the humans thanked the Centurians that fought with them and showed them giving them their freedom and the base ship
Yeah, me too. I really enjoyed the assault scenes with humans and centurions taking turns.
One question, was Racetrack dead when she fired the nukes or was it her last act before she died?

I cried like a baby, I’m not afraid to admit it.

Kara was an angel, IMO. She asked when she found her raptor if she was.

Chief did pay a price, banishment. His bloodline has ended. There was no other people where he was going.

It really was a great ending overall. This is the first full on sci-fi series that I got into. I really enjoyed the characters and the writing was great. I’m sad to see it go.

Adama and Laura, bawling my eyes out!!! Argh, that was sad.

One question, was Racetrack dead when she fired the nukes or was it her last act before she died?

She was dead. It appeared that her ship was hit (either by debris or by being fired upon, I can’t remember). She had armed the nukes earlier and her hand landed on the launch button.

What HandHeartCrown said. Also, divine intervention I believe. For God’s (of the show) will to be fulfilled, the other Cylons couldn’t remain out there as a threat.

Also, the very end. So what was the “You know He doesn’t like that name” comment in reference to “God”?

What HandHeartCrown said. Also, divine intervention I believe. For God’s (of the show) will to be fulfilled, the other Cylons couldn’t remain out there as a threat.

Also, the very end. So what was the “You know He doesn’t like that name” comment in reference to “God”?
The God reference is apparently meant to show that the God of localized religions is nothing like what the real God is. Thus the “name” misses the picture.

I’ve got to say I was pretty disappointed. To me the finale was like letting the air out of a balloon, it just kind of fizzled. I understant RM wanted to leave some questions unanswered. Yet this style of storytelling requires the audience to stick with it. It’s like saying, “Okay, I know a lot of this doesn’t make sense right now but if you stay with me you’ll be rewarded.” Instead, I feel like he pulled the rug out from under us and said “Sucker!” He should have taken a cue from Star Trek: TNG. That show had a supremely satisfying end.

I’ve said it here before but I think it bears repeating, if you want a good, coherent sci-fi series with far-reaching plotlines, watch Babylon Five. With that show, when a big reveal came, I was like “Oh wow. It all makes sense now.” With BSG, when Ellen was revealed as the final Cylon, I was more like “What the hell? Where did that come from?” It just seemed so arbitrary. The first two seasons of BSG were some of the best TV I’ve ever seen. Sadly, it went downhill from there. It was no wonder the ratings kept slipping.

And the previews for Caprica? I really have no desire to watch it.

That’s why I have hope for LOST. The writers/creators there have had the entire basic story in mind the whole time. They have known where they were headed from the first episode. The one problem with BSG was the writers/creators made it up as they went along. That was clear with the Final Five and Ellen being the last, they admit as much in interviews.

+1 Re: the B5 approach.