"The best option is abstinence, the teen said, but added that she didn’t think that was “realistic.”
Let’s now welcome the GOP and everyone else that believes teaching or providing contraception is wrong to reality. Kids are going to make mistakes and have unprotected sex, just like adults. However these mistakes don’t have to end up with the birth of children.
while i am as liberal as they come i don’t know that the government needs to be teaching anything other than how the body works.
the rest is kind of a personal thing.
if I’m going to have my tax dollars teach personal stuff like this, i would have them teach the stupid kids not to breed and the smart kids to do what they want.
anyone on board for that?
haha
Socially I consider myself to be very liberal also. I agree that schools should need to teach anything when it comes to moral issues, that should be reserved for parents. Unfortunately in the world we live in parents pretty much abdicate a lot of this responsibility. Realistically schools have to step in.
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you seen how much a movie or bowling cost these days? With the price of all this stuff going I up expect more kids to have kids. That shit’s free at least the fun part.
I would disagree with you. It’s not simply a “personal thing.” When my tax dollars go to care for, raise and educate unwanted children, I think the government has every right, as well as an obligation, to get involved to teach kids (and adults) about whatever options might be available to them, including abstinence and ontraception.
if I’m going to have my tax dollars teach personal stuff like this, i would have them teach the stupid kids not to breed and the smart kids to do what they want.
anyone on board for that?
haha
condoms break, smart kids get pregnant.
The best option to have your kids not do drugs is abstinence. But that’s not really realistic so we might as well provide free needles in school clinics.
I still faile to comprehend why we are even debating this point. I don’t want the government or any other entity teaching MY KID moral values. I plan on doing that thank you very much. And then let him make his own choices based on my guidance/instruction. If kids want to have sex, fine! Whatever! 1) use contraceptives (readily available from any drugstore/Wal Mart/Grocery store and 2) be prepared for the unintended consequences of sex.
Why is this so hard to figure out? Oh yes, because we as a society have abandoned the idea of personal responsibility. It’s much easier to abrogate that responsibility to the schools/govt/society…then blame the same when things go wrong.
The best option to have your kids not do drugs is abstinence. But that’s not really realistic so we might as well provide free needles in school clinics.
I don’t know how familiar you are with the human anatomy but teenage boys already have the delivery system, the “needle” if you will. If kids have the “needles” and schools have the ability to stop those needles from causing a pregnancy, shouldn’t they do that?
I have no problem with teachers teaching the biology of sex. What parts are involved, how that leads to pregnancy, etc.
I also think birth control should be discussed because clearly parents aren’t talking to their kids about it. What are the options? Pills, condoms, diaphrams, IUD, etc. It is at that point that parents need to teach their kids what the right thing to do is.
Some parents don;t teach their kids about sex or contraception and some teenagers ignore their parents when they do. There is a role for schools and teachers to play here in preventing unwanted pregnancies and STDs. Its a public health issue.
schools should need to teach anything when it comes to moral issues, that should be reserved for parents. Unfortunately in the world we live in parents pretty much abdicate a lot of this responsibility. Realistically schools have to step in.
Educating about contraception and sexual health doesn’t constitute a moral discussion; it’s a personal and public health discussion. The whens, whos, and whys of sex, on the other hand, is another matter, and should fall under the purview of parents and family members.
Agree, that’s why teaching the technicalities of sex are appropriate. Telling them who they should or shouldn’t have sex with, no thanks. I don’t want them telling my fictional kids something I don’t believe in.
Good, more smart babies
I was making an argument for directed evolution
lol
condoms break, smart kids get pregnant.
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Agree, that’s why teaching the technicalities of sex are appropriate. Telling them who they should or shouldn’t have sex with, no thanks. I don’t want them telling my fictional kids something I don’t believe in.
what if you don’t believe in evolution?
people are tricky aren’t they? haha
WTF does evolution have to do with this?
WTF does evolution have to do with this?
“I don’t want them telling my fictional kids something I don’t believe in.”
This kind of ethos
is why american kids aren’t being taught proper biology in some school districts.
basically my point is why have to teach things that some people don’t believe in.
because people believe some crazy shit
I dunno
Point taken but you used a giant red herring to make it. My thought was along the lines of whether or not it is acceptable to have sex before you are married, whether or not abortion is OK, etc. Moral judgment as opposed to teaching something in context of science.
I also think birth control should be discussed because clearly parents aren’t talking to their kids about it. What are the options? Pills, condoms, diaphrams, IUD, etc. It is at that point that parents need to teach their kids what the right thing to do is.
Don’t forget the pull-out method!
Well, there should be a requirement that it is actually effective. 
Yes but the two are often blurred. You can argue its social science that you want to encourage your society to not be sluts for health/stability reasons or something.
Can we just sterilize the stupid? and not worry about public education and sex ed?
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Point taken but you used a giant red herring to make it. My thought was along the lines of whether or not it is acceptable to have sex before you are married, whether or not abortion is OK, etc. Moral judgment as opposed to teaching something in context of science.