Currently I’m using the Kurt Kinetic with the standard flywheel to simulate steep hill climbing.
I used an oversize chainring to increase the resistance for standing on the pedals at low RPM.
Any other suggestions?
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Currently I’m using the Kurt Kinetic with the standard flywheel to simulate steep hill climbing.
I used an oversize chainring to increase the resistance for standing on the pedals at low RPM.
Any other suggestions?Sounds like you just want a trainer with high enough resistance? So anything that has a braking mechanism should be fine, no? Or tacx Fortius, Kickr, Computrainer, …
Currently I’m using the Kurt Kinetic with the standard flywheel to simulate steep hill climbing.
I used an oversize chainring to increase the resistance for standing on the pedals at low RPM.
Any other suggestions?
Are you interested in the context of improving your ability to follow other cyclists in a road race or criterium or is you interest in improving your ability to do well in non draft triathlon or time trials. If it’s the second, you really only need to concentrate on building power at a decent cadence and gear your bike for the courses you’re going to race on.
Hugh
Kickr for sure. I haven’t tried the computrainer, but probably would work too.
The kickr allows you to do ‘slope’ mode, which simulates inclines of up to 15%. You can get those <60rpm mash resistances that are impossible to get on a fluid trainer. With software like perfpro, you can mix erg mode (pushing a set wattage) and slope mode (simulated hills - remember to gear down!) which is great for training.
I started a separate thread on it, but suffice to say that training feels a lot more roadlike when you get actual hillwork with mash-level resistance from time to time. The fluid trainers pretty much simulate flat-road riding only, which gets a little stale if it’s all you’re doing during winter. I really love the variety when the Kickr pushes up to 5% grade or higher and I have to get out of aero and really mash, just like in the real world on significant climbs.
Currently I’m using the Kurt Kinetic with the standard flywheel to simulate steep hill climbing.
I used an oversize chainring to increase the resistance for standing on the pedals at low RPM.
Any other suggestions?
What’s different about riding uphill as compared to fast on the flats? Two things: bike position and relative lack of momentum. The former can be accomplished on any trainer by raising the front wheel. The latter implies a smaller flywheel, or perhaps no flywheel at all.
The latter implies a smaller flywheel, or perhaps no flywheel at all.
I haven’t tried removing the flywheel, I don’t want to damage the trainer in the process, but I understand your reasoning.
I’ve found that using a larger chainring, I can get that mashing resistance.
I’ve thought about getting the kicker, just wasn’t sure about the resistance.
I’ve found that using a larger chainring, I can get that mashing resistance.
I’ve thought about getting the kicker, just wasn’t sure about the resistance.
It’s still nowhere near the resistance you get on the Kickr. If you’re a halfway decent rider, there is no gear big enough that allows for 40-55 low-rpm spins on the Fluid trainer, and especially if you’re not putting up big time wattage. Whereas on the Kickr, you can actually get simulated hills where you’re doing like 50rpm, but pacing it out at 180-200 watts. That was my biggest complaint with the fluid trainers - that they could never effectively simulate real climbs (and I live in an area where it’s climbing, climbing, and more climbing). The Kickr is as close to solving that as I think you can get with an indoor solution. 5% on the Kickr really feels like a 5% climb - I have to get in to the small chainring and mash away on anything bigger than that.