Tom,
When you ride on the normal/fat part of the saddle on your Yaqui, do you rotate your hips forward as much as you can?
The turbomatic is not a flat saddle like some of the new ones. It kind of flares up an out at the back, so you sit bones share the weight with your perineum and it is very comfortable. Once I realized lower was not always better and raced my bars up three or four inches, I could stay in the aero position all day that way. I have tried seats with a cut out and all it did was put more pressure on the areas that were not cut out. I used to think that my sore butt had to do with the saddle, but I learned it is more a question of proper bicycle fit and positioning.
What do you think about the aero-ness of your Yaqui? Have you found it comfortable on long rides?
I don’t know which bike about which you are thinking, but for your money I don’t think you can beat the Manzanita/complete bike for $1,700. I bought a Mariola, but if I could do it again I would have bought the round-tubed Octotillo for less. I think “aero-tubed” bikes are marketing, pure and simple. I owned a Cervelo P2 and didn’t suddenly become faster because of it.
The Yaqui is a far better bike for me. I sold the cervelo and have kept in contact with the owner who just did Great Floridian on it. He said it was comfortable but also noted that he did see any time-savings benefit.
I have ridden upwards of six hours on the Yaqui and it is a tremendous bike for all terrains. It climbs just fine, is very stable when descending, which is not a characteristic of most tri bikes I have ridden. The Cervelo was fast enough, but downright scary on technical descents. Even spinning along in 53x12 at 60kph was white-knuckle terrifying.
Not so on the Yaqui. There are some good stretches of long descending roads in Joshua Tree national park that just beg to be spun out in a huge gear and I do it with total confidence without ever coming off the aerobars.
You will not regret buying a bike from Ves.
Chad