I know, the one that fits the best.
But focusing on the price, what do you consider the best buy (prices are for the frame kit):
Litespeed Blade: USD 3523,-
Quintana Roo Ti-Phoon:USD 3525.-
Cervelon P3: USD 2846,-
Kuota Kalibur: USD 2600.-
Felt DA650: USD 2600,-
Isaac Joule: USD 2600,-
Litespeed Saber: USD 2308,-
I think the Saber is quiet cheap (relatively spoken) compared to the others, or not?
Regards
Martin
“best buy”?
what do you want in a frame?
I dont see any of them as a best buy myself. I mean they are all great, but what is your goal here? You have Ti, Carbon and Aluminum frames listed, so I am not sure what you are looking for.
BTW, I ride a $1400 Abici frame (www.abicibikes.com) that rocks
I’m not really sure what you mean buy best buy…
But all things considered. IF you could be positioned in correctly on all of these bikes I doubt there would be a significant performance (speed) difference.
There would be a diference in feel though.
So if the your speed on the bike is going to be pretty much the same, I would get the cheapest one.
But not to beat a dead horse but I would get the one that fits… I don’t knwo abotu you but 5000 dollars is a lot of money to be spending on a full bike. Especially one that does not fit. The peace of mind of gettign expert advice is worth the money I would save by buying on the internet or something like that
You´re right, I wasn´t very specific. My maingoal is to get as aero as possible, preferably in longdistance duathlons. I´m not that tall (175 cm, 64 kg), so I´m no big-gear masher. Right now I´m riding a titanium roadbike with a straight post and the saddle as forward, as possible, and use dropbars with an Deda Aeroblue clip on. I guess I will be much faster (or less slow, aiming for longdistance speed of 35-37 km/h) if I get the appropriate equipment.
Regards
Martin
What a nice frame! But no steep seat angle? Not even 75 degrees? I thought all you americans were into the steep angle thing?!
Regards
Martin
I’ll some it up in a fairly confusing way to make me look like I know a lot (now that’s how you spell jargon.)
Litespeed Blade- Super. Looks cool. Somewhat aero. Pricey.
Quintana Roo Tiphoon- Sexy tri bike. Don’t expect the same street style around a group of roadies though. Lighter than the Blade, just a little less aero.
Cervelo P3- About the most aero of the bunch. I don’t like the paint. Probalby a little rougher than the Ti bikes.
Kuota Kalibur- Good luck finding one. Nice as far a carbon goes. Other than that, I have no idea.
Felt DA- The sexiest bike here. If I could get anyone of these for free, that’d be it. Fairly aero, should handle great. Probably a little less comfy.
Isaac- I’ll say it right now, never seen one.
Litespeed Saber- Probably the most comfy of the bunch. Not much going for it aerodynamically. Decent ride for the price.
If being as aero as possible is your goal the adage of getting a bike that fits holds even more true. Think about it this way from the front (of the bike) the thing that covers the largest surface area is yor body not the bike… the most aero bike aint going to do shit if you can’t stay in the aero bars or if your body is sticking up like a sail.
If you are in teh market for such an expensive frame why don’t you also add in teh costom frame makers (serotta, and yaqui) specifically. With those two manufacturers you have all of the materials covered (aluminum, steel, and ti… no carbon though) that way you can be sure that you are getting the best fitting bike possible. (serotta does not charge extra for custom geomoetry as an aside)
If you are interested in custom serotta, and live on the North East I would reccomend callin Paul Levine (http://www.signaturecycles.com/) if you are interested in yaqui go to http://www.yaquiusa.com/home_dl.html both of those people come highly reccomended on this site.
Well, I live in the north east. Unfortunately the north east of Denmark, so the custom fitters are living far from here. And we haven´t got the great fitters in our country, so buying a triathlon-bike is for my part “trial and error”. But I guess I have the numbers figured out, or at least I can make the mentioned frames fit (more or less).
Or maybe I should contact Walser. He makes people so aero that loosing 15% of the power output is acceptable because more is gained by the aerodynamic positioning :-).
Dear Martin,
My Kalibur came with, FORK monocoque aero, FSA Orbit headset & Carbon aero seat post. available in 4 sizes & they are in.
I don’t know if the Litespeed is coming with all that. We need to compare apple with apple here.
Patrice
custom geometry, paint, etc. deddaciai force and the gt ‘project 96’ tubesets are available. ~$1300-1500.
Dear Ze Gopha,
The KUOTA kalibur are available all over the USA & Canada, I bought mine in California …Laguna Cyclery ( www.lagunacyclery.net ), I know that Top Cycle palm beach (FL) have some to, as R & A cycle (NY), even Nytro will have some they told me. or La Bicicletta www.labicicletta.com . I spoke with Christian at the Brielle Cyclery NJ www.briellecyclery.com they have it. Or Robert (AL) www.tri-itbicycleshop.com . All of them have been very helpfull in my decision between P3, airfoild…what a bike Monocoque Carbon very light & fast…you can read on Normann Stadler website all is comment about the new KALIBUR. Very Unique & Niche.
I will say that I have been lucky to find the KUOTA product that now I just loving it, fit extremely well, nice range for adjustment (seatpost rail).
We just need to look you will find some KUOTA stuff.
Here’s the best buy
http://vandesselsports.com/b_tijdrit.shtml save the cash on the frame and go nuts on parts
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Looks like a P2K to me,with out the aero seat post. They want $2400.I can get a complete P2k for 2200.
Dave
A Tiemeyer custom built will be around $1200.00 he will even give you a deal on a Reynolds fork custom paint also Mine was built with the 96 project aero tubing
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The original poster was looking for a frameset. $699, frame/fork (carbon steerer)/Cane Creek hs. If you want to compare parts on the P2K to the Van Dessel, we can do that too. P2K, junk–Van D, not junk.
I don’t know much about the Van D, but it is cheap and looks pretty decent, that’s all I’m trying to get across.
What about the Hed VO3 frame? I think it sells for $1200 for frame, aero fork, and aero seatpost.
Dave from VA
P2K … junk parts?
Both bikes are ultegra equipped. The Cervelo has a carbon seatpost and syntace bars vs. Ritchie. Forks are different and saddles but I’m confused about how the parts on a P2K are junk? As a disclaimer, I don’t ride a Cervelo, but I wouldn’t hesitate to add the P2K to a short-list of bikes to buy.
how about a cervelo P2K for around $1,200 to 1,300 (USD).
definitely the best buy.
I know, the one that fits the best.
But focusing on the price, what do you consider the best buy (prices are for the frame kit):
Litespeed Blade: USD 3523,-
Quintana Roo Ti-Phoon:USD 3525.-
Cervelon P3: USD 2846,-
Kuota Kalibur: USD 2600.-
Felt DA650: USD 2600,-
Isaac Joule: USD 2600,-
Litespeed Saber: USD 2308,-
I think the Saber is quiet cheap (relatively spoken) compared to the others, or not?
Regards
Martin
They are all ripoffs considering the miniscule timesavings that they bring. Just my opinion.
Da Bum
“Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement” RR
Nice Cervelo P2, Gary!
Well, except for the adjustable dropouts, steep geometry, and wheel cut-out extending below the b.b.
This isn’t a slam on your bike. I’ve never heard of Abici bikes, but it looks solid. What kind of seatpost arrangement does it use? That’s a really long seat tube.