Best Entry to Mid Level Tri Bike 2015

Hello,

I have some connections at a LBS and can get a solid discount on BH, Bianchi, Scott, and Raleigh tri bikes. Does anyone have any recommendations on what which bike would be the best bang for the buck? I am willing to spend up to $6,000 MSRP. Any help/input would be greatly appreciated! Also, I apologize in advance for not listing Specialized or Cervelo, but I do not get a discount on those :slight_smile:

Edit: I’m not opposed to going with a better quality older bike (any brand). Just wanted to point out that I am capable of getting those certain 2015 bikes at cost.

Let’s just get this out of the way: the best bike is the one that fits you properly.

Your best bang for the buck would be to get a Cervelo P2, the new one. I’ve had 2-3 athletes get the 105 10spd 2014 model for a final price including tax closer to $2000 than $2100 in the last few weeks.

Your best bang for the buck would be to get a Cervelo P2, the new one. I’ve had 2-3 athletes get the 105 10spd 2014 model for a final price including tax closer to $2000 than $2100 in the last few weeks.

Thanks Bryan, great advice. I should have added in my original post that I am not opposed to going with what you just mentioned.

Scotts offerings are pretty good but your price puts you in “no mans land”. The plasma 10 retails at under $4000, and the premium is $7000. If the 10 fits, maybe that and then upgrade the bars and to di2?

Your best bang for the buck would be to get a Cervelo P2, the new one. I’ve had 2-3 athletes get the 105 10spd 2014 model for a final price including tax closer to $2000 than $2100 in the last few weeks.

Do something like this ^^^. Pick up a Flo 60/90 combo and spend money on a decent coach. IMO it’ll be a better deal than spending $6k on just the bike.

Let’s just get this out of the way: the best bike is the one that fits you properly.

But there will always be more than one that fits you properly, and usually all of the major options will fit you properly.

Let’s just get this out of the way: the best bike is the one that fits you properly.

But there will always be more than one that fits you properly, and usually all of the major options will fit you properly.

And I’m 6’0 165 lbs with a “standard” body type, so I’m sure most are able to fit me properly. I also don’t have any flexibility issues/impairments/etc.

Let’s just get this out of the way: the best bike is the one that fits you properly.

But there will always be more than one that fits you properly, and usually all of the major options will fit you properly.

And I’m 6’0 165 lbs with a “standard” body type, so I’m sure most are able to fit me properly. I also don’t have any flexibility issues/impairments/etc.

current standard body type, or 60s standard body type?

Let’s just get this out of the way: the best bike is the one that fits you properly.

But there will always be more than one that fits you properly, and usually all of the major options will fit you properly.

And I’m 6’0 165 lbs with a “standard” body type, so I’m sure most are able to fit me properly. I also don’t have any flexibility issues/impairments/etc.

If you’re willing to drop $6000 on a bike perhaps take the time to go spend $300 on a proper fitting (Retul) and then have those measurements dictate your list of “best fitting” bikes. Once you’ve got a short list go and take them for a test ride and go with the one that makes your heart flutter. Don’t assume anything fits you because there are too many variables involved to be so confident. Being able to ride something is much different than comfortably ride something for hours at a time.

That’s my 2 cents…

Let’s just get this out of the way: the best bike is the one that fits you properly.

But there will always be more than one that fits you properly, and usually all of the major options will fit you properly.

And I’m 6’0 165 lbs with a “standard” body type, so I’m sure most are able to fit me properly. I also don’t have any flexibility issues/impairments/etc.

If you’re willing to drop $6000 on a bike perhaps take the time to go spend $300 on a proper fitting (Retul) and then have those measurements dictate your list of “best fitting” bikes. Once you’ve got a short list go and take them for a test ride and go with the one that makes your heart flutter. Don’t assume anything fits you because there are too many variables involved to be so confident. Being able to ride something is much different than comfortably ride something for hours at a time.

That’s my 2 cents…

For full disclosure, I would actually be dropping no more than $3,000 (I get the bikes at cost), but yes I agree with that. Thanks for the advice!

Your best bang for the buck would be to get a Cervelo P2, the new one. I’ve had 2-3 athletes get the 105 10spd 2014 model for a final price including tax closer to $2000 than $2100 in the last few weeks.

This is one I have been looking at as a great bang for the buck.

Any reason they did not go with the 11 speed?

I assume the 2015 P2 has no real changes?

The 10 speed model I believe has compact cranks. I assume 50/34. What is the crank arm length?

Don’t assume anything fits you because there are too many variables involved to be so confident.

stack, reach, and STA.

not really that bad. If you are short it can get tricky but he isn’t.

And I would also not assume a retul fit is a proper fit. Retul is a neat piece of technology, that can measure things, but it is neither a necessary or sufficient condition for a proper fit.

Let’s just get this out of the way: the best bike is the one that fits you properly.

But there will always be more than one that fits you properly, and usually all of the major options will fit you properly.

But if I didn’t say it, you know someone else would have :slight_smile:
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Don’t assume anything fits you because there are too many variables involved to be so confident.

stack, reach, and STA.

not really that bad. If you are short it can get tricky but he isn’t.

And I would also not assume a retul fit is a proper fit. Retul is a neat piece of technology, that can measure things, but it is neither a necessary or sufficient condition for a proper fit.

I don’t claim to be a fit guru, and compared to you jack I’m definitely not even in the same ballpark. However common sense tells me that Retul before a bike purchase is the most flexible. I’ve yet to meet a fitter who will have a bike available for a fit and then swap out cranks, stems, handlebars, pedals, and the rest to get me “optimally fit” for a bike. They may “know” how these things will fit me but without me knowing how that feels it’s not a proper fit as half the parties involved are still in the dark. The Retul system just makes it easier on fitters to do such things which gives the widest variety in positions which ultimately puts more insight into the end user who will be purchasing the bike.

Correct me if I am wrong here but this just seems logical and sound does it not?

There are many kinds of fit bikes like the Retul fit bike.
The unique bit about Retul is the motion capture stuff, not the adjustable fit bike.

I don’t claim to be a fit guru, and compared to you jack I’m definitely not even in the same ballpark. However common sense tells me that Retul before a bike purchase is the most flexible. I’ve yet to meet a fitter who will have a bike available for a fit and then swap out cranks, stems, handlebars, pedals, and the rest to get me “optimally fit” for a bike. They may “know” how these things will fit me but without me knowing how that feels it’s not a proper fit as half the parties involved are still in the dark. The Retul system just makes it easier on fitters to do such things which gives the widest variety in positions which ultimately puts more insight into the end user who will be purchasing the bike.

Correct me if I am wrong here but this just seems logical and sound does it not?

There are many kinds of fit bikes like the Retul fit bike.
The unique bit about Retul is the motion capture stuff, not the adjustable fit bike.

I don’t claim to be a fit guru, and compared to you jack I’m definitely not even in the same ballpark. However common sense tells me that Retul before a bike purchase is the most flexible. I’ve yet to meet a fitter who will have a bike available for a fit and then swap out cranks, stems, handlebars, pedals, and the rest to get me “optimally fit” for a bike. They may “know” how these things will fit me but without me knowing how that feels it’s not a proper fit as half the parties involved are still in the dark. The Retul system just makes it easier on fitters to do such things which gives the widest variety in positions which ultimately puts more insight into the end user who will be purchasing the bike.

Correct me if I am wrong here but this just seems logical and sound does it not?

Now I know what you mean! I was just using the Retul as the example as it seems to be the status quo and most widely adopted in my area (yes I’m in my own little bubble mistakenly). The capture is great information on top of the dynamic fit bike. Either way my point was to try as many positions as possible, determine the one that suits the rider personally and then make a decision based around the information followed by a bit of emotion (thus the comment about making the heart flutter) … Anyway that’s achieved is only going to benefit the buyer in the end :slight_smile:

A good reason to look at it.

Any reason they did not go with the 11 speed?

Probably because it was on sale, but I can’t speak for those customers

I assume the 2015 P2 has no real changes?

That depends on whether or not you believe 11 spd is an upgrade. If you do then yes, huge changes. If you don’t then, well…I dunno. The wheels are also different. It also costs more than the 10 speed version. There is no “2015” designation anymore. It is just the “P2.”

The 10 speed model I believe has compact cranks. I assume 50/34. What is the crank arm length?

That depends on the size, but it is 52/36. http://www.cervelo.com/en/bikes/p-series/p2.html

A good reason to look at it.

Any reason they did not go with the 11 speed?

Probably because it was on sale, but I can’t speak for those customers

I assume the 2015 P2 has no real changes?

That depends on whether or not you believe 11 spd is an upgrade. If you do then yes, huge changes. If you don’t then, well…I dunno. The wheels are also different. It also costs more than the 10 speed version. There is no “2015” designation anymore. It is just the “P2.”

The 10 speed model I believe has compact cranks. I assume 50/34. What is the crank arm length?

That depends on the size, but it is 52/36. http://www.cervelo.com/...kes/p-series/p2.html

They have a P2 with 10 or 11 speed on their website now. So, what changes other than 11 spd would they do on a P2 for 2015?

The website for the P2 10 speed says FSA Gossamer BBright™ 50/34 but not the crankarm length.

Let’s just get this out of the way: the best bike is the one that fits you properly.

Except for Specialized, most of the current bike models fit the same. So what’s left?

The only options left to consider are price and aero.

That leaves you with the Trek 7 series and Cervelo NP2.