Since you say you do sprint distance races I’ll mention one that hasn’t been listed.
ASICS MetaRacer.
Not as high stack height as others, great midsole foam and plate. I really like it for shorter stuff, especially if the course has twists and turns.
I just had a look at these at a pre race expo. They felt great, very light. More like a racing flat. I’ve got Next%s but am keen to get these.
Why is a carbon plate shoe a must if your only doing a sprint? Most of the carbon plated shoes have a big chunk of soft foam to last a marathon not a 5K. Running a 5k you can just about pick any shoe. If bare feet is the most important don’t worry about a carbon plate.
Adidas Adizero Pro or the Adios Pro. The celarmesh upper is pretty soft.
Why is a carbon plate shoe a must if your only doing a sprint? Most of the carbon plated shoes have a big chunk of soft foam to last a marathon not a 5K. Running a 5k you can just about pick any shoe. If bare feet is the most important don’t worry about a carbon plate.
Most research that I have seen indicates that carbon plated shoes are faster regardless of the distance. Of course the benefit will be amplified in a marathon but there’s still a few seconds of “free” speed even in a 5k. If you look at ITU guys a good number of them are using these type shoes and they are running no longer than 10k.
I’m 65 and at an age where I’m basically just happy to be out there but like most people I want to go as less slow as possible.
well. at least there karma to using these cheater shoes. there are tons of people with achilles problems now after usage
True, because these shoes make you use your calfs more by how they work. So everybody that runs in these shoes on a regular base should do some extra calf exercises.
Jeroen
For the NB RC I would need to go down a 1/2 size but for the Elite I would use my standard size.
I think you mean you need to go down a 1/2 size for the TC and the RC Elite, right?
The latter fitting a bit more narrow and tighter then the TC.
Jeroen
if you are going to cheat go all out. rollerblades should work fine sockless too.
Calling these carbon plated shoes “cheater shoes” is something I expect from letsrun but not here.
Do you also think that using a wetsuit is cheating in the swim? How about non UCI legal bikes, are those cheating too?
if you are going to cheat go all out. rollerblades should work fine sockless too.
Calling these carbon plated shoes “cheater shoes” is something I expect from letsrun but not here.
Do you also think that using a wetsuit is cheating in the swim? How about non UCI legal bikes, are those cheating too?
yes. the more tech required - the more money invested required. This is diluting some good competitors from the field - especially up and coming athletes. I know many fast swimmers and runners who would kill it in tri, but shut out due to costs - so they stick in swim/run world
yes. the more tech required - the more money invested required. This is diluting some good competitors from the field - especially up and coming athletes. I know many fast swimmers and runners who would kill it in tri, but shut out due to costs - so they stick in swim/run world
In a sport with with $12,000+ bikes, and $600+ wetsuits, I’d say that ship sailed long before $200+ shoes came along.
yes. the more tech required - the more money invested required. This is diluting some good competitors from the field - especially up and coming athletes. I know many fast swimmers and runners who would kill it in tri, but shut out due to costs - so they stick in swim/run world
In a sport with with $12,000+ bikes, and $600+ wetsuits, I’d say that ship sailed long before $200+ shoes came along.
But to add, why cheat yourself on what you really can do. Seek cheap glory, like BQ on downhill marathon with fly % shoes…
if you are going to cheat go all out. rollerblades should work fine sockless too.
Calling these carbon plated shoes “cheater shoes” is something I expect from letsrun but not here.
Do you also think that using a wetsuit is cheating in the swim? How about non UCI legal bikes, are those cheating too?
yes. the more tech required - the more money invested required. This is diluting some good competitors from the field - especially up and coming athletes. I know many fast swimmers and runners who would kill it in tri, but shut out due to costs - so they stick in swim/run world
This is starting to smell like an endurance racing socialism rant inbound…
yes. the more tech required - the more money invested required. This is diluting some good competitors from the field - especially up and coming athletes. I know many fast swimmers and runners who would kill it in tri, but shut out due to costs - so they stick in swim/run world
In a sport with with $12,000+ bikes, and $600+ wetsuits, I’d say that ship sailed long before $200+ shoes came along.
But to add, why cheat yourself on what you really can do. Seek cheap glory, like BQ on downhill marathon with fly % shoes…
Cheap glory? You just got through complaining about how expensive it was. You need to make up your mind.
Jeroen - As you know the TC has a fairly stiff upper. It doesn’t completely wrap the foot. I’d go down a 1/2 size to get that upper to wrap my foot. As for the Elite, that upper is a standard mesh upper that can and will wrap the foot. I’m confident the regular size I wear would work just fine.
The second gen Nike 4% with the knit upper
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yes. the more tech required - the more money invested required. This is diluting some good competitors from the field - especially up and coming athletes. I know many fast swimmers and runners who would kill it in tri, but shut out due to costs - so they stick in swim/run world
In a sport with with $12,000+ bikes, and $600+ wetsuits, I’d say that ship sailed long before $200+ shoes came along.
But to add, why cheat yourself on what you really can do. Seek cheap glory, like BQ on downhill marathon with fly % shoes…
Cheap glory? You just got through complaining about how expensive it was. You need to make up your mind.
Why don’t we all just run barefoot you’re all a bunch of pansy’s wearing shoes and all. The sport is too expensive you shouldn’t be allowed shoes. Hell no bikes either, just run around with a couple coconuts making the sound of a disc wheel.
If he’s gonna bitch about shoes with a carbon plate he better bitch about all shoes, because just a shoe was a major advantage compared to running sandals. Probably someone was using an African swallow to send messages to their friends bitching about the guy who started using shoes instead of sandals.
Yes, but your original post said RC to go down 1/2 a size and Elite the normal size. So that’s what I meant when I comment to you, you wanted to say TC instead of RC.
The upper is not only a bit stiffer on the TC also it is wider then the RC. I think the TC is about the widest of all carbon plated shoes and the even have e wide version of it :-).
Jeroen
well. at least there karma to using these cheater shoes. there are tons of people with achilles problems now after usage
Do you have any past experience racing on a light well made old-school racing-flat? Have you actually compared how much faster they are compared to them? Point is, yes they are faster, but to call them “cheating shoes” when they follow the regulations, seems a bit weird. On the contrary I found it exciting that finally there is some innovation in the shoe department other than changing shoe colours or discontinuing racing flats that worked well for me (i.e. mizunos wave ekiden).
Perhaps those of us who have some experience racing on flats and spikes are not having as many achilles issues with carbon plated shoes 
well. at least there karma to using these cheater shoes. there are tons of people with achilles problems now after usage
Do you have any past experience racing on a light well made old-school racing-flat? Have you actually compared how much faster they are compared to them? Point is, yes they are faster, but to call them “cheating shoes” when they follow the regulations, seems a bit weird. On the contrary I found it exciting that finally there is some innovation in the shoe department other than changing shoe colours or discontinuing racing flats that worked well for me (i.e. mizunos wave ekiden).
Perhaps those of us who have some experience racing on flats and spikes are not having as many achilles issues with carbon plated shoes
yes I do. i guess the problem is not racing. the problem is keeping track of times. Races need to boast about position people are in, and not mention times anymore. we will never know who is GOAT now.