Benghazi Whistleblowers--MEGA THREAD

Official: We knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack “from the get-go”

(CBS News)** “Everybody in the mission” in Benghazi, Libya, thought the attack on a U.S. consulate there last Sept. 11 was an act of terror “from the get-go,” according to excerpts of an interview investigators conducted with the No. 2 official in Libya at the time, obtained by CBS News’ “Face the Nation.”**

“I think everybody in the mission thought it was a terrorist attack from the beginning,” Greg Hicks, a 22-year foreign service diplomat who was the highest-ranking U.S. official in Libya after the strike, told investigators under authority of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. Hicks, the former U.S. Embassy Tripoli deputy chief of mission, was not in Benghazi at the time of the attack, which killed Chris Stevens - then the U.S. ambassador to Libya - and three other Americans.

When he appears this week before the committee, chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., Hicks is expected to offer testimony at odds with what some American officials were saying in public - and on “Face the Nation” - just five days after the attack. Benghazi whistleblowers have rallied attention to discrepancies among the administration’s reaction to the attack, which The Weekly Standard suggests was frayed by ever-evolving talking points that sought to remove references to al Qaeda.

On Sept. 16, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice hit the media circuit, appearing on all five Sunday talk shows to dispel the notion that the strike was a premeditated terrorist act and to perpetuate the case that it began “spontaneously” out of protests in Egypt. Rice’s spot on “Face the Nation” that day was preceded by the new President of Libya Mohammed al-Magariaf, who said his government had “no doubt that this was preplanned, predetermined.”

“For there to have been a demonstration on Chris Stevens’s front door and him not to have reported it is unbelievable,” he said. "I never reported a demonstration; I reported an attack on the consulate. Chris - Chris’s last report, if you want to say his final report - is, ‘Greg, we are under attack.’

“…I’ve never been as embarrassed in my life, in my career, as on that day,” Hicks continued in his interview with investigators. “The net impact of what has transpired is, the spokesperson of the most powerful country in the world, has basically said that the president of Libya is either a liar of doesn’t know what he’s talking about. …My jaw hit the floor as I watched this.”

Though the White House has said it was in contact with officials in Libya the night of the attack, Hicks said in the days following, he was never consulted about the talking points. One day after Rice’s Sunday show blitz, Hicks said he called Beth Jones, acting assistant secretary for near eastern affairs at the State Department, and asked, “Why did Amb. Rice say that?” The tone of her answer - “I don’t know,” he said - indicated that “I perhaps asked a question that I should not have asked.”

The net impact of Rice’s statements, Hicks said, was “immeasurable.” On top of his personal belief that “the reason it took us so long to get the FBI to Benghazi is because of those Sunday talk shows,” he said, Magariaf lost face “in front of not only his own people, but the world” at a time of democratic transition in his country. He added, “I have heard from a friend who had dinner with President Magariaf in New York City that he was still angry at Amb. Rice well after the incident.”

Appearing on “Face the Nation” to address Hicks’s remarks, chairman Issa agreed Sunday that the “fatal error” in a debacle that marked a “misinformation campaign at best, and a cover-up at worst,” was tossing into the lurch the relationship between the United States and Libya.

“You can’t insult a foreign leader in a greater way than happened literally here, just those few days later,” Issa said. “Ambassadors know that the one thing you can’t do is contradict your host, especially at a time when you need their cooperation. This was a fatal error to our relationship, at least for a period of time. And we can’t find the purpose. should have been among - above all else - the person who was on the same sheet of music with the Libyan government, and she wasn’t.”

Issa said his committee’s hearing this week will try to get to the heart of why “the talking points were right, and then the talking points were wrong.” Though he said it might be “in part” a cover-up effort in light of the State Department having turned down requests from diplomats on the ground for heightened security, “it does seem like it’s bigger than that.”

“There was this normalization, sort of a mentality, where you had to pretend like things were safe; the war on terror was over,” Issa said. "And that may have gone in a great way to getting people to say, ‘Well, we can’t call this a terrorist attack because then the war on terror is back alive.’

“Well… the war on terror is very much alive,” he continued, “whether it’s Chechen nationals who come here, or whether it’s what’s going on in Syria - it’s al Qaeda around the world. And that’s the reality that, hopefully, State Department people will feel at least they are being properly protected after this attack.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57582929/official-we-knew-benghazi-was-a-terrorist-attack-from-the-get-go/

Above link has video of interview with Rep. Issa.

Rice needs to be fired.

I am quite sure that this version of the McCarthy hearings will uncover the vast left-wing conspiracy. This time for sure.

Hey, Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Oh, Bullwinkle, that trick never works.
This time for sure.

I am going to give you the benefit of doubt and write you off as a troll. There is no way anyone could be this dumb.

Quick question, do you think Lance doped?

Greg

So what happens if he is right and nothing comes of this?

It’s amazing to me that people like him think 9/11 was an inside job when our government cant even manage a small cover-up like this. Or is Dick Cheney just that good?

I am going to give you the benefit of doubt and write you off as a troll. There is no way anyone could be this dumb.

Our bureaucrats did not blindly accept what the leader of freakin’ Libya said and went with the sketchy information they had while waiting for a more thorough account. ZOMG! It’s a conspiracy. This thing may go all the way to the top. Wake me up when the impeachment hearings begin.

It’s like a circle jerk of loons in this place. After spending last fall coming up with ever more laughable theories of General Petreaus being blackmailed to cover up Benghazi, one would think you guys would finally figure out that you may be a couple of beers short of a six pack.

We’re well beyond speculation here, though your take might have merit if the admin did not push the false meme so hard, and instead went with a “we’re waiting for more intel” approach. It’s obvious, and there is now the paper trail to show it, that unwanted news was massaged for political purposes. Pretty simple, and not surprising (from any admin) but they worked the lie so hard and for so long (Obama repeatedly referencing the video in his address to the UN assy almost three weeks after the incident). There may be some partisan glee from the right in seeing an admin lie exposed, but your partisan view is at least as much on display.

I am going to give you the benefit of doubt and write you off as a troll. There is no way anyone could be this dumb.

Our bureaucrats did not blindly accept what the leader of freakin’ Libya said and went with the sketchy information they had while waiting for a more thorough account. ZOMG! It’s a conspiracy. This thing may go all the way to the top. Wake me up when the impeachment hearings begin.

It’s like a circle jerk of loons in this place. After spending last fall coming up with ever more laughable theories of General Petreaus being blackmailed to cover up Benghazi, one would think you guys would finally figure out that you may be a couple of beers short of a six pack.

It’s not only that our bureaucrats didn’t listen to the leader of Libya, it’s that they didn’t even try to find out what happened from the Deputy Chief of Station: http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/benghazi-whistle-blower-hicks-internal-review-let-people-off-the-hook/?hpt=hp_t2

Spot

It’s amazing to me that people like him think 9/11 was an inside job when our government cant even manage a small cover-up like this. Or is Dick Cheney just that good?

Please explain WTC 7 to me.

Actually I am more than half serious as I still don’t understand exactly what took place there.

Please explain WTC 7 to me.

The Lavender Room, where Truthers live forever.

Please explain WTC 7 to me.

The Lavender Room, where Truthers live forever.

Don’t you have a village that’s missing you?

Please explain WTC 7 to me.

The Lavender Room, where Truthers live forever.

Don’t you have a village that’s missing you?

I feel right at home here. I just need to plug into Alex Jones so he can tell me why WTC 7 fell and how it is linked to Newtown and Boston. This thing could go right to the top.

Seems to me that you are putting a fair bit of energy into derailing this thread. Something about this investigation must have you worried.

It’s amazing to me that people like him think 9/11 was an inside job when our government cant even manage a small cover-up like this. Or is Dick Cheney just that good?

Please explain WTC 7 to me.

Actually I am more than half serious as I still don’t understand exactly what took place there.

Read this: http://www.nist.gov/manuscript-publication-search.cfm?pub_id=861610

Explains it very well.

Spot

It’s amazing to me that people like him think 9/11 was an inside job when our government cant even manage a small cover-up like this. Or is Dick Cheney just that good?

Please explain WTC 7 to me.

Actually I am more than half serious as I still don’t understand exactly what took place there.

Read this: http://www.nist.gov/manuscript-publication-search.cfm?pub_id=861610

Explains it very well.

Spot

Hey sheep try better next time than spread further government propaganda.

It’s amazing to me that people like him think 9/11 was an inside job when our government cant even manage a small cover-up like this. Or is Dick Cheney just that good?

Please explain WTC 7 to me.

Actually I am more than half serious as I still don’t understand exactly what took place there.

Read this: http://www.nist.gov/...ch.cfm?pub_id=861610

Explains it very well.

Spot

Hey sheep try better next time than spread further government propaganda.

Have you actually read the report? Or is this just a knee jerk response?

I have read it and it is a hogwash report.

Seems to me that you are putting a fair bit of energy into derailing this thread. Something about this investigation must have you worried.

I think the troll is actually Chainpin. He needed to create a character like AmaDablam (cute name) to push along the thread and make his prediction of a MEGA THREAD.

Seems to me that you are putting a fair bit of energy into derailing this thread. Something about this investigation must have you worried.

I think the troll is actually Chainpin. He needed to create a character like AmaDablam (cute name) to push along the thread and make his prediction of a MEGA THREAD.

Even if Chainpin was trolling, he couldn’t sound half as dumb nor ignorant as AmaDablam.

It’s amazing to me that people like him think 9/11 was an inside job when our government cant even manage a small cover-up like this. Or is Dick Cheney just that good?

Please explain WTC 7 to me.

Actually I am more than half serious as I still don’t understand exactly what took place there.

Read this: http://www.nist.gov/...ch.cfm?pub_id=861610

Explains it very well.

Spot

Hey sheep try better next time than spread further government propaganda.

Have you actually read the report? Or is this just a knee jerk response?

this conversation is a spot-on proof of poe’s law. i honestly can’t tell what’s sincere and what’s satire, here.

-mike

I have read it and it is a hogwash report.

Really? Specifically, what parts? And I assume you are an expert in all of the fields required to make such a claim? Also, then, are you implying that every person who is mentioned as being involved in the report is knowingly participating in a coverup?

Spot

Really? Specifically, what parts? And I assume you are an expert in all of the fields required to make such a claim?

  • The NIST states that WTC 7 descended at free-fall yet the computer simulation they used is not consistent with a building that is in free-fall.

  • The NIST computer simulation doesn’t look like the actual collapse of WTC 7 caught on video. They stop their computer model 1 second after the building begins descending.

  • Even in their report, NIST admits their simulation does not match the actual collapse.

  • The NIST computer model is inconsistent with the design and destruction of WTC 7.

No I am not an expert, but I can read and make conclusions based upon what other experts have stated and concluded. I assume you are an expert?