Behind the scenes observations from yesterday's ironman florida win by lionel sanders

Few Ironman days are perfect, and yesterday, at Ironman Florida, Lionel Sanders did not have the perfect day. Regardless, he learned a lot an I am sure if you check his blog in the next few days he will have a lot of very unique, interesting and honest information to share. The first oddity of the day, was waking up to 40-50km winds and my honest realization that the organizers were going to shorten or cut the swim. After seeing how hard it was for the life-guards to even get off the beach, the proper safety decision to cut the swim was made. It was a very cool morning and by the time I saw Lionel getting out of the water from his pre-race swim warmup, he was shivering. Organizers did a great job, communicating the changed format with no swim and a new 8am time trial bike start. Before the race had started, Lionel’s back wheel went flat and we had to find a new tubular for his bike (not easy at 7am). Local organizer were ultimately kind enough to get us a tube, and he got his nerves controlled as 2500 people had to get mentally ready for a different day, with big-winds blowing the sand and temperatures just over 40 degrees at race start time. Lionel and I chatted about whether he should just ride very controlled and look to try to win on the run, or to keep to the philosophy of learning as much as he can for Kona next year, and pushing the bike and seeing what it would do to his legs. Within 10km he passed Ben Hoffman who went off 60 seconds ahead of him on the bike time trial and led the Ironman bike ride for 170 of the 180km. At supper last night he told me, that he realizes he was just a bit short on total bike fitness. He did the first 90km of the bike in roughly 317 watts and hoped he would see an easier 2nd half of the bike as he turned back towards home on the flat bike course. Unfortunately the wind just kept swirling and while he finished the bike averaging 313 watts for the entire ride, and did it in 4hrs 12 minutes (43km/hr avg), he knew the very windy conditions had hurt him (as an aside many of last years riders were 15-20min slower yesterday due to the huge winds & cold conditions). Off the bike with a 13 min lead on the great Tom Lowe, Lionel did what we wanted to try. See how fast he could run off a very hard, windy, Ironman bike. He looked good for the first 21km (and ran roughly 1hr 17ish and put another 4-5 minutes into Tom and the other lead men). It was about mile 15, that Lionel knew his Ironman learning curve was about to kick in. I saw him dig deep the last 10km, knowing he pretty much had the win in the bag (with a nearly 20 min lead) but he pushed on running hard, not to secure the win, but to learn as much as he could in his pro Ironman debut. Its clear, as good a day as he had, he still has a lot of improving to do and his gutsy 2hr 44min marathon (while the day’s fastest) still was not where he and I would like it to be. Great for a first time Ironman run, and likely fantastic after his 4hr 12 minute bike, but still a lot of improvement will be needed for Lionel to be the complete athlete he wants to be. His highlight of yesterday, after the actual win, was being at the finishing line to put the medal around his mother’s (Becky) neck as she finished her first ever Ironman. I am not sure that any parent, finishing their first Ironman, has had the unique opportunity of having the medal be presented by their child (and race winner). Lionel spoke very well immediately after finishing and was very happy to get a warm, and classy response from Tom Lowe after Tom finished. It was a very tough day, and while the conditions were not ideal (as we had hoped for), the reality is no two Ironman races are the same and thats what makes each day unique and special. My wife and I were out for supper with Lionel and his mom/sister and girlfriend around 8pm last night and has a great post-race meal & time to celebrate. It was very funny, when the restaurant staff recognized him as the day’s race winner and asked for his autograph and a picture. Lionel left supper, headed to the finishing line to do the honorary handing out of finishers medals to the last finishers of the race. Today will be his first Awards Speech & then time for him to chill on the beach with his family and start the regeneration towards 2015. As Lionel’s coach & mentor, I want to thank the many SLOWTWITCH followers who have been very gracious and interested in his year. From being smashed down in Utah in May and wondering if he was fooling himself about trying to be a pro triathlete, to his three 70.3 wins, his 4th place in 70.3 Mt Tremblant Worlds, his trip to Kona to see the big race in action as a spectator and finally his unique hard fought win in yesterday’s Ironman Florida. My honest observations yesterday, was with a swim, Lionel would have been just under 8hrs for his pro debut (putting him with just a handful of men who have broke 8hrs on their first Ironman). Regardless it was a great learning day & season and hopefully he will be able to apply many of those learnings to 2015. Congratulations to the nearly 3000 people who raced yesterday and the 1000+ incredible volunteers who were out to 12:30am this morning when sister Madonna got across the finishing line in the wind & cool breeze. Finally, I know Lionel would like to thank Louis Garneau, Saucony, Nineteen Wetsuits, Computrainer, Cycle Culture Bike Shop, Dr. Kniaiziew and his home club C3 for their complete & 100% support of his dream of being one of the best triathletes in the world. For those who are interested, hear is what a man says, after he crosses the line to win his first Ironman after a very unique 4 year journey from depression & drugs to a great day on the Ironman course. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=371475883014656

Sincerely
Barrie Shepley
Voice of ITU Triathlon
Hall of Fame Triathlon Coach
& Lover of all things triathlon

Thanks for the insight Barrie. Even with a swim I still think Lionel would have won the race. It has been exciting to watch him progress from local duathlete to world class triathlete. And it will continue to be exciting to watch him in the coming years.

Barry, I’m sure this is a great write up, but I gave up after 2 seconds due to it being dizzying in one monster paragraph. Please break it up so it’s easier on the eyes, especially for those of us who just raced yesterday as well:) Thanks!

Barry, I’m sure this is a great write up, but I gave up after 2 seconds due to it being dizzying in one monster paragraph. Please break it up so it’s easier on the eyes, especially for those of us who just raced yesterday as well:) Thanks!

Agreed. I would like to read about it, but it is nearly Impossible to read.

I am lovin’ this! A great person to carry the Canadian flag!!! Take that world…eh!

Few Ironman days are perfect, and yesterday, at Ironman Florida, Lionel Sanders did not have the perfect day. Regardless, he learned a lot an I am sure if you check his blog in the next few days he will have a lot of very unique, interesting and honest information to share.

The first oddity of the day, was waking up to 40-50km winds and my honest realization that the organizers were going to shorten or cut the swim. After seeing how hard it was for the life-guards to even get off the beach, the proper safety decision to cut the swim was made. It was a very cool morning and by the time I saw Lionel getting out of the water from his pre-race swim warmup, he was shivering. Organizers did a great job, communicating the changed format with no swim and a new 8am time trial bike start.

Before the race had started, Lionel’s back wheel went flat and we had to find a new tubular for his bike (not easy at 7am). Local organizer were ultimately kind enough to get us a tube, and he got his nerves controlled as 2500 people had to get mentally ready for a different day, with big-winds blowing the sand and temperatures just over 40 degrees at race start time. Lionel and I chatted about whether he should just ride very controlled and look to try to win on the run, or to keep to the philosophy of learning as much as he can for Kona next year, and pushing the bike and seeing what it would do to his legs. Within 10km he passed Ben Hoffman who went off 60 seconds ahead of him on the bike time trial and led the Ironman bike ride for 170 of the 180km.

At supper last night he told me, that he realizes he was just a bit short on total bike fitness. He did the first 90km of the bike in roughly 317 watts and hoped he would see an easier 2nd half of the bike as he turned back towards home on the flat bike course. Unfortunately the wind just kept swirling and while he finished the bike averaging 313 watts for the entire ride, and did it in 4hrs 12 minutes (43km/hr avg), he knew the very windy conditions had hurt him (as an aside many of last years riders were 15-20min slower yesterday due to the huge winds & cold conditions).

Off the bike with a 13 min lead on the great Tom Lowe, Lionel did what we wanted to try. See how fast he could run off a very hard, windy, Ironman bike. He looked good for the first 21km (and ran roughly 1hr 17ish and put another 4-5 minutes into Tom and the other lead men). It was about mile 15, that Lionel knew his Ironman learning curve was about to kick in. I saw him dig deep the last 10km, knowing he pretty much had the win in the bag (with a nearly 20 min lead) but he pushed on running hard, not to secure the win, but to learn as much as he could in his pro Ironman debut. Its clear, as good a day as he had, he still has a lot of improving to do and his gutsy 2hr 44min marathon (while the day’s fastest) still was not where he and I would like it to be. Great for a first time Ironman run, and likely fantastic after his 4hr 12 minute bike, but still a lot of improvement will be needed for Lionel to be the complete athlete he wants to be.

His highlight of yesterday, after the actual win, was being at the finishing line to put the medal around his mother’s (Becky) neck as she finished her first ever Ironman. I am not sure that any parent, finishing their first Ironman, has had the unique opportunity of having the medal be presented by their child (and race winner). Lionel spoke very well immediately after finishing and was very happy to get a warm, and classy response from Tom Lowe after Tom finished. It was a very tough day, and while the conditions were not ideal (as we had hoped for), the reality is no two Ironman races are the same and thats what makes each day unique and special.

My wife and I were out for supper with Lionel and his mom/sister and girlfriend around 8pm last night and has a great post-race meal & time to celebrate. It was very funny, when the restaurant staff recognized him as the day’s race winner and asked for his autograph and a picture. Lionel left supper, headed to the finishing line to do the honorary handing out of finishers medals to the last finishers of the race. Today will be his first Awards Speech & then time for him to chill on the beach with his family and start the regeneration towards 2015.

As Lionel’s coach & mentor, I want to thank the many SLOWTWITCH followers who have been very gracious and interested in his year. From being smashed down in Utah in May and wondering if he was fooling himself about trying to be a pro triathlete, to his three 70.3 wins, his 4th place in 70.3 Mt Tremblant Worlds, his trip to Kona to see the big race in action as a spectator and finally his unique hard fought win in yesterday’s Ironman Florida. My honest observations yesterday, was with a swim, Lionel would have been just under 8hrs for his pro debut (putting him with just a handful of men who have broke 8hrs on their first Ironman). Regardless it was a great learning day & season and hopefully he will be able to apply many of those learnings to 2015. Congratulations to the nearly 3000 people who raced yesterday and the 1000+ incredible volunteers who were out to 12:30am this morning when sister Madonna got across the finishing line in the wind & cool breeze.

Finally, I know Lionel would like to thank Louis Garneau, Saucony, Nineteen Wetsuits, Computrainer, Cycle Culture Bike Shop, Dr. Kniaiziew and his home club C3 for their complete & 100% support of his dream of being one of the best triathletes in the world. For those who are interested, hear is what a man says, after he crosses the line to win his first Ironman after a very unique 4 year journey from depression & drugs to a great day on the Ironman course. https://www.facebook.com/...hp?v=371475883014656

Sincerely
Barrie Shepley
Voice of ITU Triathlon
Hall of Fame Triathlon Coach
& Lover of all things triathlon

Hope you don’t mind me splitting it up, Barrie! Loved reading this. Big congratulations to Lionel on what was surely a mentally and physically draining day.

Great write up Barrie. I’ve enjoyed following Lionel’s journey thus far and have great interest in his future. His story is inspirational. I find his blog provides great insight into his thoughts and feelings. On a personal note - while I did not have a great day yesterday it was pretty cool seeing you on Surf Drive with the Bolton boys. Just a couple of Mac Phys. Ed. grads from the 80s at an Ironman - who knew?!

Cheers

Barry, I’m sure this is a great write up, but I gave up after 2 seconds due to it being dizzying in one monster paragraph. Please break it up so it’s easier on the eyes, especially for those of us who just raced yesterday as well:) Thanks!

Agreed. I would like to read about it, but it is nearly Impossible to read.

Life is full of “impossible” tasks isn’t it? I got through it, so high marks to me for the “nearly impossible”…

Congratulations to Lionel and of course his coach.

Other than slowing him (and everyone else) down, what is the impact of the wind.

I mean he rode 313watts for 4h12 and ran 2h44.
Had there been no wind, wouldn’t he have rode 313watts for maybe 4h and then run that same 2h44 ?

Did it affect his VI for example ?

What’s next in terms of racing ? I am guessing has all the KPRs he needs for Kona ? Do you do more IMs for experience ?

Barrie,

It would be great if you could follow up this thread in a few weeks after everything has sunk in and let us know what the focus will be after a little time off and some discussions with Lionel. I would love to know what you take away from this day as well as some of the other races and what you will need to put in place for next year.

I personally like the philosophy of doing the first race hard to see what can be done. I have done this with my running, cycling and triathlons and it is amazing feedback. I think Lionel is very insightful and introspective so I am sure his blog and your posts will be very interesting in the next few weeks and months as you plan for the next year.

Lionel’s finish line interview endeared him even further to me…very well, albeit soft, spoken young man. Seems like a very likable polite individual.

I agree and think this guy is a great representative for Canada, Sponsors and Triathlon. I can’t wait to see what next year brings and how he improves. The best part is that there is a lot of information being shared about his progress and it is very interesting to see and follow. I am really warming up to the treadmill after reading about this guys EPIC sessions.

Great write-up, thanks for all of that inside info!!! It will indeed be very interesting to see what Lionel can do next year. As a swim guy, I will be very interested to see how fast he can get in the pool. I say “in the pool” because while obv his OW results will matter the most for any given race, OW swims are so variable that it is hard to say what any one person’s swim time in a race means w/o knowing how fast the fastest swimmer went, and how fast he/she is in the pool. Thus pool time trials are def the best way to evaluate progress; I know you know this but just elaborating for other readers so I don’t get lectured on how “pool times don’t matter”:slight_smile:

Barrie,

Congrats to you and Lionel on the first win. I don’t think the win was ever in doubt, especially after the swim was cancelled.

A few questions in you don’t mind.

My wife and I were out for supper with Lionel and his mom/sister and girlfriend around 8pm last night and has a great post-race meal & time to celebrate.
How was the bolded part possible? :wink:

You really think Lionel would have gone sub 8 with a swim? What do you think he would have swam? And by how much do you think a swim would have affected his bike and run? A few minutes each?

I’m guessing Lionel is not going to Bahrain?

You never know 100% anything, but my estimation is that Lionel would have swam within 1-2 minutes of Tom Lowe and 6-7 min slower than the fastest men in the field. Add in 2min for transition and your looking at a sub 1hr swim & transition for him. Add to a 6hr 58min bike and run, and you have sub 8hrs. Had the swim occurred, the windy conditions would have likely been much lighter (as they were the very next day and as they were in 2013). That would have made the bike much easier as well. Some of the guys were 12-15 min slower on their bike splits in 2014 (then the rode in 2013). Lionel figures he should have rode a 4:04 o 4:05 bike split on a normal day of winds. So my honest opinion is that he would have rode sub 8hrs (even on the 2014 course) and likely 8-10 min under 8hrs on a normal day.

None the less, I thought he had a great first day at the office.

To me, it’s pretty clear that even with a slower swim, he still goes well under sub 8, especially since the winds would be lighter. I think the list is pretty short of IM athletes that go sub 8 with those wind conditions.

I know he said he’d shut it down… but any thought of doing IMAZ to lock up a KPR… or is he looking at making a statement at IMTX or go for another win at maybe CdA or Whistler before focusing on Kona?

Its been a long season for Lionel of very intense racing and lots of learning (mistakes and some great innovative ideas). Time now for him to shut things down, skip the big 70.3 money race in Dec (that in the perfect world, we could have prepared for) and to get ready for 2015. He just got engaged yesterday in Panama City (so a very exciting weekend). We now need to get the swim strategies organized for 2015 progression. So as hard as 2014 was, 2015 will be even bigger, tougher and more important to his progress. So this month of regeneration post-Florida is important.

REALLLY hoping it was a typo - / instead of ,

that is what i did in my mind
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