**Do you try to come off the bike with a big lead? **
I don’t know that that’s necessary. I think the recipe would be to ride conservatively and really plan on running. You could ride your ass off and get 10 minutes—but you’ll lose 20 or 30 in the run.
**So instead, you conserve energy and come off the bike feeling better than everyone else. **
That’s the idea, anyway. It works when we’re talking about it now, but then you get there and it all changes. That’s why I need to do a couple. I need to do some half-Ironman events—get my swimming back. I don’t know that I can win. Some of these guys go quick.
However, all he knows is what he’s reading here. Maybe we should try harder to influence him? I guess he’s bored of his kids and the MTBing by now and spends more time reading our crap.
However, all he knows is what he’s reading here. Maybe we should try harder to influence him? I guess he’s bored of his kids and the MTBing by now and spends more time reading our crap.
I wonder if he’s registered on here? Does he ever make any comments?
Laaaannnce??? Yooooo Hoooooo… Where aaaaarrrre yyooooooooouuuuu???
He goes by the name…swimfan
No, that can’t be right. We all know Lance still has one testicle. Since he’s returned, swimfan obviously has NO balls.
HAHAHA!
I would think he would go by the name notaswimfan… being a cyclist and running sub3 marathons… but no Lance headlines about open water swim competitions…
Clearly its Lance’s/swimfan’s way of hiding from the media. Lance has always been a bit camera shy, tries to stay out of the press and lives his life as a closed book.
I think Lance needs me to coach him on strategy.
That strategy sounds nice, but Lance is unique.
My guess is that he would be best advised to ride a little bit hard. Here’s what I think: A person’s ability to run off the bike is as much a function of their bike fitness than run fitness Lance’s bike fitness is such that he can ride the fastest IM bike split in history and still be relatively unphased Even if he ran a stand-alone marathon he probably couldn’t outrun a few of the top IM guys in their run If he were to get a 15 minute lead on the bike he is very likely to cause his main competition to screw up their strategy
The great question is what would his bike ability be once he had to train the run and swim at the same time. I’m willing to bet he’s not going to the the bike HP people think he’d have once that’s in place. He’d have to put alot of training into the run to even think about holding off the fast guys.
The great question is what would his bike ability be once he had to train the run and swim at the same time. I’m willing to bet he’s not going to the the bike HP people think he’d have once that’s in place. He’d have to put alot of training into the run to even think about holding off the fast guys.
True about his cycling performance. But when pro cyclists have gone triathlete they still dominate the fields on the bike.
I think he needs to be doing close to 3 hours in the marathon to be a likely winner.
True about his cycling performance. But when pro cyclists have gone triathlete they still dominate the fields on the bike.
I think he needs to be doing close to 3 hours in the marathon to be a likely winner.
Who has in Kona? Steve put down a fast split in 2001 then blew up on the run, even is he ran 3 instead of 3:20 he still would have gotten run down by deboom.
True about his cycling performance. But when pro cyclists have gone triathlete they still dominate the fields on the bike.
I think he needs to be doing close to 3 hours in the marathon to be a likely winner.
Who has in Kona? Steve put down a fast split in 2001 then blew up on the run, even is he ran 3 instead of 3:20 he still would have gotten run down by deboom.
I only meant that they dominate in the bike! not afterwards.
So Steve’s case actually supports my assertion…ie at that point he was presummably riding less and less fit than when pro cycling and yet biked very well.
Steve probably swam more slowly than Lance would so would have a greater lead out of T2…but yes it will be a nail biter because he’ll be losing ground fast on foot.
The great question is what would his bike ability be once he had to train the run and swim at the same time. I’m willing to bet he’s not going to the the bike HP people think he’d have once that’s in place. He’d have to put alot of training into the run to even think about holding off the fast guys.
True about his cycling performance. But when pro cyclists have gone triathlete they still dominate the fields on the bike.
I think he needs to be doing close to 3 hours in the marathon to be a likely winner.
Lance is actually a protriathlete gone procyclist ;). Armstrong was the number one ranked triathlete in the 19 and under age-group. Armstrong became a protriathlete at age 16 and was the national sprint champion in 1989 (18) and 1990 (19). He was a baller triathlete.
Do you try to come off the bike with a big lead?
I don’t know that that’s necessary. I think the recipe would be to ride conservatively and really plan on running. You could ride your ass off and get 10 minutes—but you’ll lose 20 or 30 in the run.
Would Armstrong gain just 10 minutes on the bike? Stadtler did 4:18 at Kona which is the record. What time could a top Tour contender who could run, do on the bike without crashing during the run?
Im not sure what I think about the Lance to triathlon thing. I am a huge Lance fan and have always thought if he did a tri it would be super cool. It would make the coverage on Hawaii just completely insane. What if he wins? Everyone outside of the “tri world” now thinks it is nothing and that Lance can just come in a dominate. Plus it would bring all the asshole cyclist to the sport thinking they could come beat all the triathletes. I like the triathletes we have now. Very good community I would say. Not that I dont want new people in the sport but Lance would bring too many. Plus I like that not everyone knows what Ironman is. Or how big Hawaii really is to the rest of us. What are everybody elses thoughts?
A. If Lance were to come in and win, it would really show how the current triathlete scene is. If they cant beat a “cycling” specialists, than they deserve what they get. I dont think there is any way in hell Lance could show up in Kona in 2010 or 2011 and win. Could he win some local triathlon race, sure, but put him against the best Ironman racers in the world in an actual iron distance, and he wouldnt win, unless there was some bad luck and mechanicals.
B. Bring on the best of the best. If cyclists think they are the “best” and can win, BRING IT. Lance of course will bring people into the tri scene more than any person on this planet. But I dont think all of a sudden, Triathlons are going to be won by cyclists. Rember, Lance started in tri’s, and Lance really is a special talent as far as what he can do with endurance.
****Would Armstrong gain just 10 minutes on the bike? Stadtler did 4:18 at Kona which is the record. What time could a top Tour contender who could run, do on the bike without crashing during the run?
Probably not too much faster really.
Look at the TdF this year. Apples to oranges I know with drafting, and the fact that they didn’t swim before, but stage 6 was a flat 181.5km (1.25km longer than IM) and the winner finished in 4:21, stage 2 was a flat, windy 187km that was done in 4:30.
However, stage 11 was a flat 192km done in 4:17 and stage 19 was a flat 195km done in 3:50.
Basically my conclusion is that while a GC contender could beat the record, without drafting it wouldn’t be by much, and conditions would have to be perfect.