Armstrong Article from Oregonian

Armstrong could use LeMond’s support, not attacks **** Monday, August 02, 2004 KURT ROBINSON ****

Outrage, disbelief, shock. Those three words summed up my reaction to the comments made by Greg LeMond about Lance Armstrong. What motive would such a prestigious American cyclist have to make such harsh and completely unfounded comments about a fellow countryman? http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/^/images/spacer.gif http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/^/images/spacer.gif http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/^/images/spacer.gif http://ads1.advance.net/RealMedia/ads/Creatives/ADVANCE/CONTENT_WELL_ARROW/arrow.gifFrom Our Advertiser
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Jealousy?

Perhaps LeMond cannot handle that Armstrong is the new American icon of cycling. A title that once belonged to LeMond is now gone. Greg who? Yes, that is the answer that most Americans give when LeMond’s name is mentioned. An overweight and out-of-shape cyclist is what LeMond has transformed himself into. The spotlight is gone and the only way to reclaim it is to make harsh accusations of drug use against Armstrong.

Armstrong gets tested for every known drug in his system about as often as rain falls in the Northwest. To have representatives from a company banging on your door at 7 in the morning, hand you a cup, tell you to do your business in it or else your career will be over is quite intrusive. Yet Armstrong seems to take it in stride.

LeMond should have been in France supporting his countryman, instead of bad-mouthing him. LeMond, a three-time winner of the yellow jersey, opened his mouth and uttered comments that are extensively fictitious. I could walk up to Lance Armstrong any day of the week at any hour, hold out a small plastic cup, and he would know exactly what I wanted.

Much like columnist John Canzano of The Oregonian going up to Blazers guard Damon Stoudamire in March and asking for the same favor, Armstrong would follow suit and oblige just as Stoudamire did. Just like Stoudamire, he would pass and come clean.

Though Stoudamire and Armstrong are great athletes in their respective sports, it is not fair to classify them in the same category. Armstrong accomplished a feat so extraordinary that he joins a list of . . . well, he created that list. No other cyclist has ever pedaled his way to six – count them, six – Tour de France titles. LeMond wore the yellow jersey at the end of three Tours, half of what Armstrong accomplished. So it could be understandable that LeMond might be a bit envious of Armstrong, but why the comments?

Perhaps because of Armstrong’s past association with Italian sports doctor Michele Ferrari, who is on trial for fraud and distribution of banned substances, LeMond assumed that Armstrong should be in that category as well. Why would the Texas native, who underwent chemotherapy for testicular cancer, see the need to use banned substances? Armstrong stared death in the face, and pedaled right past it.

Forget about the cycling titles; forget about even being able to cycle again, just being alive is a miracle in itself. Armstrong’s determination and will to survive and make it back in the saddle of his Trek bike is an accomplishment that should not be overshadowed.

To go through rigorous chemotherapy treatments, drugs that push the body to limits unimaginable, then to take performance-enhancing drugs would be senseless.

Armstrong looked up to LeMond in his early days of cycling. Why couldn’t LeMond keep his comments to himself? Why did he go public? If he needed attention, he got it. Much like Armstrong’s rival, Jan Ullrich, LeMond could not seem to stop from packing on the pounds in the offseason. Had he not done that, who knows, the possibility of riding his way to six Tour de France titles might not have been out of reach.

Armstrong then would have to fight for another title to be the only cyclist with seven titles. LeMond had the pleasure of watching Armstrong ride into Paris with his U.S. Postal Service teammates and claim the yellow jersey for a record-breaking sixth consecutive year. Armstrong knows the doping allegations will never cease, but hopefully they will from fellow Americans, such as LeMond.

Kurt Robinson lives in Newport.

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flytri,

Let’s look at it another way.

1985 Lemond is ordered to slow and fall back to help team mate Hinault after dropping entire field on a mountain time and becoming the virtual yellow jersey. Lemond falls back and helps Hinault. Hinault wins TDF but Lemond believes he would have won if not ordered to fall back and help team leader Hinault.

1986 Lemond wins TDF with help? from Hinault.

1987 and 1988. Lemond recovering from near fatal gunshot wound during his cycling prime.

1988 Lemond returns to TDF and wins for second time causing some to speculate that if Lemond was healthy in 1987 and 1988, he would have won in those years too.

1989 Lemond wins third TDF.

Now in Greg’s mind he won in 1985. In reality, he won in 1986. Again, in Greg’s mind he would have won in 1987 and 1988. In reality, he won in 1988 and in Greg’s mind became the fourth time winner and first winner of five consecutive TDFs. In reality, Lemond won 1989 TDF and in his mind became the first six time winner and won consecutive TDFs.

In Greg’s mind, he is equal if not greater than LA and can only be so if some of LA’s luster can be chipped away. It’s too bad Greg stoops this low. It diminishes himself instead of elevating himself. Just my 2 cents.

It is surprising that Trek, who manufactures and markets Lemond cycles seems to do nothing in terms of suggesting that Greg shut his mouth and take the “high road”, rather than risk alienating potential Lemond bicycle customers by trying to besmirch the Trek brand namesake. But maybe this is good.

After the redesign of the Lemond line and seeming to lose focus for their market niche, Trek will now have a reason for failing sales, although it may have less to do with Greg Lemond than they wish to admit.

Or look at it another way.

1996 - Lance doesn’t get cancer, but loses a bunch of weight…like Eddy M. told him to. Wins his first tour.

1997 - Lance wins #2

1998-2004 - Lance wins #3 - #9

:slight_smile:

I only buy Lemond’s argument about '85. Maybe '84 if the team was behind him…maybe. But the shooting happened, it was too bad, but it happened. And you can’t even compare that to getting cancer, because if Greg’s brother-in-law had known shit about guns/hunting the accident never would have happened.

I was just about the biggest Lemond fan out there, but i’ve been so disappointed recently…oh well.

Chris

I do not know Lance Armstrong.

I do know Greg LeMond. I worked with Greg on quite a number of occasions when he was in his heyday and spoke with him on a number of occasions- several times at trade shows, frequently at races around the U.S. in conjunction with working with Time Sport USA. I haven’t seen him in years though, probably not since the early '90’s.

Greg LeMond is a friendly, simple person who I experienced to be absolutely honest and kind. I experienced him as be utterly forthright, nearly incapable and largely unwilling of ulterior motives.

I found his father to be rather abrasive, but Greg is just your average Category 3 bike racer who is a lot faster.

Any judgement on this entire Armstrong/LeMond/Doping controversy is made in a vacuum of real information. One of three things is true:

  1. We already know the truth.
  2. We’ll never know the truth.
  3. We’ll discover the truth at some point in the future.

Impossible to tell which one of those three is the case at this time.

You have to love the “everyone is on dope but me” attitude. Only a guy on something can win like that, except me.

Greg-get the lead out.

Best friend would train with Lemond when he moved to Wayzata. Said he’d literally heap salt on his food. Is that good with one kidney or is that doping?