Are you a wimp test

Just got off the phone with the father of one of our customers. Compare yourself to this 12 yo girl. Does failure to exceed this qualify as a wimp.

She weighs 90 lbs. Can hold 280 watts for 15 minutes on the Computrainer and in a sprint can get to 580 watts! Apparently when she rides on the road even the CAT 1’s can’t hold her wheel when climbing although they catch her on the flats.

one of your Eastern European customers ;-)? I venture to guess that having a 12-y.o. girl race against the local Cat 1’s may not be the best idea, long-term.

Having said that, I sure would like to be able to hold 6.8 Watts/kg body weight for 15 minutes…

She is not racing against them, just a saturday group ride, apparently the only day of the week she is outside.

apparently the only day of the week she is outside.

Dang! Sounds like she’s put half the (of the 20000) miles on Tingley’s Kurt Kinetic trainer then! :slight_smile:

PEDs? Never too young, eh?

According to Andrew Weber here, who met her at Interbike, he had to look over the counter and down just to see her. She can’t get in any races where they have one of these “you must be this tall to enter” signs. :slight_smile:

She was pretty good before she got on the PC’s as I guess she could hold the big guys wheels on those climbs and now the difference is she rides away, but they catch her on the flats.

It is customers like this that will let us know what the true potential of the PC’s are, assuming she stays with them until she is 30 or so.

Maybe they really aren’t CAT 1’s or they are but they aren’t “racing”. All I know is what is reported. He says he is riding off the back just amazed.

She is out of S. Cal. and her name is Corrine Rivera. Maybe some here have ridden with her and can report first hand.

Her pa is a doctor who once worked for a French cycling team!

Hmm aren’t junior restricted in gearing, they are in Spain, Australia, Malaysia and the Uk where I have ridden with clubs?

Cat1 cyclists not being able to keep up with a 12 yo girl on a bike with restricted gearing… good joke I imagine someone will believe it…

I’d hope that Cat 1 riders can hold 280+ watts for more than 15 minutes on a climb, but then again, she probably weighs 1/3 as much as they do!

I know, just trying to keep it light-hearted. Her dad’s obviously very proud (and should be). Parents have been know to stretch the truth a bit: ) I think every person I’ve ever known that has a kid is convinced the kid is a genius by age two : )

I don’t doubt the 280wx15 mins is possible. But I sure doubt that any decent Cat3 non-crit/sprinter specialist couldn’t ride right along with that uphill. Most of the Cat3s and beyond start to get pretty skinny/light, and turn WAY higher wattage than that.

I say it’s hype.

And no, that’s no wimp test. A wimp test would be how deep you can reach within yourself. For example, I TT’d for an hour at ~96% of max HR. Or, I once did a 20 min TT at 80.1% of my MAP. Those are non-wimp deep-digging efforts, regardless of the actualgross power output. :stuck_out_tongue:

Frank, I’m glad to hear she is here in Southern California. I did some quick calculations and it looks like she has a shot at breaking 50:00 ascending Mount Palomar if she can hold 249 watts. Get her out there on Jan 30th. If she beats Stadler’s time by 7:00 at age 12 I bet she could auction off her eggs for at least a million bucks a pop.

Whether she is really climbing away or not from Cat whatever men, I find the numbers pretty impressive for a 90 lb 12 year old. I can generate higher numbers but i don’t weigh 90 lbs. I mean, how many people can generate 15.5 watts per kg during a sprint? or sustain 7.5 watts per kg? That is the same as a 70kg person sustaining 522 watts or 100 kg person sustaining 750 watts during a climb. She loses something because her bike is relatively heavy compared to the bigger people but I suspect anyone would climb pretty good at those numbers.

Perhaps you don’t think it impressive but I do, which is why I posted it. I look forward to her maturation, assuming she maintains her interest and/or doesn’t “burn out”.

I mean, how many people can generate 15.5 watts per kg during a sprint? or sustain 7.5 watts per kg?
Therein lies the problem Frank. A few minutes back super-girl was putting out 280 watts, now at 7.5 watts per kg she is sustaining 306 watts! I bet she is a kick-ass rider, period, whether she is a little girl or not, but it’s the exaggeration that takes away from what she has or might some day do. I’d say 208 watts for a 40.7kg rider is very impressive, but 280 or even 306 for a young 40.7kg girl is practically walking on water.

Oops. I had her at 37.5 kg. I used the inch cm conversion, not the lb/kg conversion. Thought it seemed a little light. Either way, still pretty impressive. 6.85 watts per kg sustained. 14.15 watts/kg sprinting. How many here can do that?

At 69kilos, over a fifteen minute period I’d have to average 469 watts to hang. Lance weighs about what I do, just a tad more in race shape I think; can he hold 470 watts for 15 minutes? He’s probably about 10% either way I bet.

Sounds about right. I think his Alpe D’Huez TT was in the mid/high 400w.

At least all of us could beat her in a sprint. The weight doesn’t mean so much there. :slight_smile:

I thought I remembered Lance averaged 490 watts for over 30 minutes up Alp d’Huez. I don’t think she would ride away from Lance.

At least all of us could beat her in a sprint. The weight doesn’t mean so much there. :slight_smile:
Thank you, there is at least something I can hold onto!

Sorry Frank,

This just doesn’t pass the smell test for me. 90 pounds, female, 12 years old and can hold 280 watts on a CT for 15 minutes…Rrrriiiiiiiiggghhhtttttt!

Hey, don’t shoot the messenger. Just passing on what i was told. Sounded impressive to me and I am not sure why anyone would be motivated to lie to me about this stuff.