Ok, so it’s “just” cheerleading, but come on already.
My fondest memories of HS Football are of our coach screaming obscenities at us. Or telling slightly dirty jokes on the bus ride to a game.
So what if a cheerleading coach calls a bunch of prissy girls “highfalutin heifers”.
Have you heard that names that kids/young adults call each other? It’s not like they aren’t hearing the same stuff around town.
Not to worry – my son’s basketball coach is a screamer and his baseball coach one time yelled across the field to his son to “get your head out of your ass!” The kids were 10 at the time. As long as it doesn’t cross the line into abuse, it doesn’t bother me too much. Frankly, most 10-11 year-old boys have their heads up their asses and need some yelling to get it out of there.
I probably don’t have a problem with a coach yelling over to a player to get his head out of his ass. I probably do have a problem with a coach calling a group of high school girls heifers. Or with any name calling, really.
It isn’t appropriate, it isn’t necessary, and there are better ways.
Nice. Just please don’t break out your camera phone and send it to the local news.
I coach girls soccer (8 year olds and 5 year olds). No swearing or name calling.
The 5 years olds is all fun and games,
With the 8 year olds, I am much more vocal (but always try to be positive).
My favorite quote from my HS Football Coach was “Dammit Timboricki, You are Shittier than Shit”. Still makes me laugh to this day.
I guess it depends on the context. It sounds like the coach lost it and that the remark was park of a much longer and generally inappropriate rant. Again – the line between usual yelling and abuse may have been crossed here. It’s a nice alliteration, though.
My peewee hockey coach (11-12 year old or so) used to say “I’ll jam my stick so far up your ass you’ll be shitting splinters for a month!” Used to love that one. He was nuts
I had a soccer coach that screamed obscenities at us during games. It was a tactic to make the other team feel sorry for us. Other than game time he was the mellowest dude in the world.
The tactic worked, too. I remember playing against him the prior year and feeling bad for his players.
The hardest part about playing on his team was trying to keep from laughing. If anyone laughed during a game he’d pull him.
I had a soccer coach that screamed obscenities at us during games. It was a tactic to make the other team feel sorry for us.
He must have had really shitty teams.
That is a very, very strange coaching philosophy. I wonder where in the heck he got that idea.
Did he also drink beer and smoke during practice?
That is a very, very strange coaching philosophy. I wonder where in the heck he got that idea.
Did he also drink beer and smoke during practice?
Whiskey and cigars.
I had a soccer coach that screamed obscenities at us during games. It was a tactic to make the other team feel sorry for us.
He must have had really shitty teams.
We never lost a single game.
I had a soccer coach that screamed obscenities at us during games. It was a tactic to make the other team feel sorry for us.
He must have had really shitty teams.
We never lost a single game.
Wait, did this guy coach in North Carolina around 1982, wear too much cologne and carry a grocery bag everywhere he went?
Weird, this happened in Texas, isn’t Heifer a complement there?
And good thing this didn’t happen in IL. The student would have gone to jail for recording someone without their permission.
~Matt
She did get suspended for a couple days.
How does yelling ever help anyone? The best coaches I’ve had were teachers capable of getting a point across without acting insane. On the other hand, the worst coaches I’ve had were miserable human beings that maliciously used the authority given to them. I shudder when I think of the total BS I put up with to play sports.
Your close on the year. That’s about it.
The year after I left the team (too old) he got arrested and did some time for supplying liquor to minors (the kids on his team). Dude was f**king class personified. I heard rumors of him buying hookers for some players (14-15 year olds!). I never had any first hand accounts of this but it wouldn’t have been out of character.
He got results.
Yelling all the time, just for the sake of yelling = not good.
When young adults are messing around during a practice that the coach is trying to teach something = time to yell a little.
I’m sure coach K, Izzo, Urban Meyer, Saban, etc have been a little vocal at times. Because they are demanding and they set a precedent early on that practice is to be taken seriously. I’m sure the same can be said for the best cheerleading coaches out there.
There is a right way and a wrong way, but it is probably a grey area in some instances.
I’ll give you my girls, 7 year old, soccer team example. Last fall, I had 2 girls that loved doing cartwheels. I am explaining a drill, and they are off doing cartwheels. I told them to stop and 5 minutes later they were doing cartwheels again. Happened a few more times during that practice.
Next practice, at the very beginning of practice, I had a little team talk - “Does any here take gymanstics or dance class?” A few hands went up. “Do you ever play soccer at dance class?” “No coach.” “Okay, here is the deal. Le’ts have a quick cartwheel contest. After this contest, I only want to see carthweels after our team scores a goal in a game.”
No more cartwheels at practice ever again. BUT - Man were they excited to show off their carthweel skills after a score.
If I am trying to explain a drill and a girl is messing around, I give them a warning. If it happens again, I make them run a lap and stop at their mom along the way to tell them why they are running laps. I think this season, I will make it a team lap.
I have not coached teenagers yet, but my guess is that the need to be a little more vocal is there.
I have not coached teenagers yet, but my guess is that the need to be a little more vocal is there.
I’ve coached teenagers. I learned to use yelling/profanity sparingly. Use it too much, they’ll tune it out. Also, they’ll realize it’s a way to manipulate you - get you angry.
I tried to use the policy of providing praise in public, and criticism in private. If someone really pissed me off I’d call practice for everyone but that person, and have a nice, quiet person-to-person chat. Usually worked.
Using swearing sparingly is great because when you do pull it out in a crucial situation it has huge effect when used in a positive way, e.g. “Stop messing around, let’s fucking bury them.”
heifer as in: " A young cow before she has had her first calf" (from wikipedia)?
sorry do not what heifer means.
Fred.