while following the stage on cycling.tv i couldn’t help thinking that levi must’ve got a morphological exception for saddle nose to bb (1.3.013). that saddle, for a guy his size, on that size bike, can’t have been 5cm behind the bb. anybody know for sure where the saddle was?
Dan:
It looked that way to me as well. Also look at the picture of Raivis Belohvosciks’ bike below from your front page article. Again does not appear to be 5cm behind center of BB when holding a straight edge up to the picture.
They are making Masters at USAC Natz meet UCI position rules this year. Our tech inspection is slated to be 3 minutes before our start time. Many of us are worried whether that will be enough time to ask and be measured for an ME.
Cheers,
Ric
Dang! If I’d known you’d wanted a more side-on shot, I would’ve tried to get a better angle than this one I took about 20 minutes before his start today. Even from this angle though, it sure doesn’t look like it’s 5 cm behind the BB:
“Many of us are worried whether that will be enough time to ask and be measured for an ME.”
the rules say that you’re to ask for the test “at the presentation of your license” and that they’re supposed to give you the test sometime between then and the start of the race. but the commissaires have been treating masters differently than pros, at least at masters worlds. they don’t give MEs there.
i’ve heard, for the pros, several things from these pros themselves but nothing that i’ve verified. among them is that bb to bar tip (1.3.023) is not considered for riders under 1.90 meters, and that the same rider can’t get an ME for both 1.3.013 and 1.3.023 (which makes sense). but none of that is in the rules. they’re basically just making rules up as they go along, as far as i can tell.
They are making Masters at USAC Natz meet UCI position rules this year. Our tech inspection is slated to be 3 minutes before our start time. Many of us are worried whether that will be enough time to ask and be measured for an ME.
Ric,
Where are you getting that kind of detailed information? I still haven’t been able to find out what state the course is in! (Ky or IN?)
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Master Nationals is in Louisville this summer, right?
Would love to meet BTW - I’ll try to be down there!
Or here’s another question, Dan. Why does’nt Trek have a smaller size in this very nice carbon Equinox TTX bike. Leipheimer barely fits on the thing and almost no women fit on this bike. You would think that if Trek was really taking this market seriously they would have a smaller size. Strange!
is that THE james huang from cyclingnews?
Dan,
Wouldn’t an Adomo saddle fix this rule? I have seen guys cut the nose of their saddles off before.
Hi Dan (and everyone else).
I know that Levi have had an ME for his position at races in the past seasons, so I guess it is likely that he have had it here too.
Richard Nixon: I am under the impression that it is no longer possible to cut the nose of the saddle under UCI rules - from this season (can anyone confirm this?).
I have actually just bought at seat shuttle for my Quintana Roo Lucero to get more setback on the seatpost (I used to ride with a saddle with the nose cut off).
is that THE james huang from cyclingnews?
Now that is some kinda funny.
My personal post of the year.
-SD
Why does’nt Trek have a smaller size in this very nice carbon Equinox TTX bike. You would think that if Trek was really taking this market seriously they would have a smaller size.
you know i had the same question for carl at trek a few months back when i was corresponding with him during a classifieds transaction. he basically told me that the individuals involved in the original sizing concept believed that the 3 sizes offered would cover more fit sizes than they actually do. that said, the next generation is in the works and it will be interesting to see if they correct this oversight.
Hi Bob:
The team got that info from USAC when we we inquired for a rule clarification concerning racing UCI elite races and then Masters natz. As to the course, Have not heard definitively, but the indication we got was they were planning to use the same course along the Ohio River that was used when natz was in Louiville in 2003. The course started just past the casino and staging was in the casino parking lot. Was a good mildly technical course with twists and some rollers.
The tip of my aerobars from the BB are legal, but the tip of the nose of my saddle is even with the BB. I qualify for an ME as my knee does not go past the spindle, but that doesn’t help me if they are not set up to grant them. Are you set up UCI legal?
Cheers,
Ric
As to the course, Have not heard definitively, but the indication we got was they were planning to use the same course along the Ohio River that was used when natz was in Louiville in 2003. The course started just past the casino and staging was in the casino parking lot. Was a good mildly technical course with twists and some rollers.
Nothing rolling or technical about that course…if I had still had the bike and it were legal, I do it on Hooker “aero-or-die” bars while using a fixed gear.
Thanks SD, good on your boys at Slipstream. Representing Felt, zipp, powertap, et all well.
For masters nationals you should plan to be 100% by the book legal. There may not be time for them to check for ME or for you to argue your point.
At Masters Worlds they told riders “we do not do thar here”- meaning even checking for ME.
Or here’s another question, Dan. Why does’nt Trek have a smaller size in this very nice carbon Equinox TTX bike. Leipheimer barely fits on the thing and almost no women fit on this bike. You would think that if Trek was really taking this market seriously they would have a smaller size. Strange!
Supposedly in the works. Check out post #48.
Here is the closest I could find to a side on shot (I don’t want to steal Graham Watson’s image) and I cannot see how that is 5cm behind the BB. No way.
http://www.grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/updateframesetcall?openform&08caliSt5
i’ve heard, for the pros, several things from these pros themselves but nothing that i’ve verified. among them is that bb to bar tip (1.3.023) is not considered for riders under 1.90 meters…
anybody else heard this? i’m 1.78 meters tall, my setback is about 7cm and i’m choking up with anything less than 85cm from bb to bar tip. have it set at just under 80cm right now and 75cm feels similar to riding the hoods!
I think this pic solves the mystery.