Are their any good coaches out there that anyone can recommend that will develop a custom training plan for me at a reasonable cost to get me ready for Florida 70.3? I followed the Endurance Nation off season plan (sort of) with okay success. I say okay because I was able to do all of the bike workouts but because I was still fairly new to running I just couldn’t do any of the run workouts as they were prescribed. One of the other drawbacks to their system for me is that it does not have a strength training component and I really need that to avoid injury and just feel like I’m all around fit.
So what I’m looking for is a training plan geared toward Florida 70.3 that is customized to my specific ability in the three sports and has a very good strength/stability/core component that is periodized and in tune with the rest of my program. I don’t need the hand holding during the plan. Just the plan. If their was a good nutrition component as well that would be a bonus but not necessary.
Who would you guys suggest? Why them? What should I expect to pay for something like this?
I would think that any good coach would work customized for you. I don’t believe in letting everyone do the same amount and intensity of training.
What’s the point off paying money for a copy that is used for everyone, get yourself a good book about physiology and training instead.
Are their any good coaches out there that anyone can recommend that will develop a custom training plan for me at a reasonable cost to get me ready for Florida 70.3? I followed the Endurance Nation off season plan (sort of) with okay success. I say okay because I was able to do all of the bike workouts but because I was still fairly new to running I just couldn’t do any of the run workouts as they were prescribed. One of the other drawbacks to their system for me is that it does not have a strength training component and I really need that to avoid injury and just feel like I’m all around fit.
So what I’m looking for is a training plan geared toward Florida 70.3 that is customized to my specific ability in the three sports and has a very good strength/stability/core component that is periodized and in tune with the rest of my program. I don’t need the hand holding during the plan. Just the plan. If their was a good nutrition component as well that would be a bonus but not necessary.
Who would you guys suggest? Why them? What should I expect to pay for something like this?
Shoot me an email.
Ha!!! Yeah, I had a feeling I was going to get that comment. I don’t think that Endurance Nation is the problem for me. I think their plans are fine. My one complaint is that I don’t think that they have a great approach for beginners despite dividing up their plans by levels. I have 3 years of cycling under my belt so the intensity for the cycling was probably not enough. I have only been running for the last 4-5 months and have had several nagging injuries that have prevented me from running as consistent as I need to. 50 minutes is my long run to date and that was doing 8 min run with 1 min walk. Endurance Nation has a lot of runs that are 1 hour with various intensity levels. For a true beginner I’m not sure that is realistic. I think I need another 2-3 months of just building a run base before I can safely tackle any run intensity.
I think Iron Guides would have been similarly problematic since off the shelf plans will all suffer from this limitation. It is the nature of the product and I knew what I was getting myself into when I signed up so I adjusted the plan to my needs as much as possible but think that I need a little bit more customization to be successful at my first 70.3. Hopefully this doesn’t turn into a EN versus IG debate. If so, we’ll have you to blame.
Exactly. I wish I could afford you for the coaching. I’ve heard nothing but good things about your coaching. PM me if you do anything like what I need. Thanks.
Amen! Triathlon is the only sport I can think where you can call yourself a coach and never spend one second with your athlete. There really needs to be a distinction between coaching and someone who advises you IMO.
Agreed. I’m more interested in having a holistic training plan that incorporates some things tailored to my needs and objectives. I know I can’t afford the type of coaching that Sutton gives or that Lance Armstrong receives nor do I need it (this is a hobby after all). I just want a custom plan that I can execute on my own. Of course, the guys and gals trying to make a living with their passion deserve to be compensated for their knowledge and time too.
making a plan is not coaching… interacting daily with the athlete and communicating on how things are going and changing the plan on the fly is coaching.
I started a blog post about this, but haven’t and may not post it.
I don’t think that the definition of coaching that you prospose is coaching either…and I’m guilty of the same thing. It’s more motivating or encouraging, or whatever. But coaching, true coaching, is a face to face on deck relationship that a team coach would do…whether dealing with individuals like swimming, running, cycling, some triathlon or when dealing with a soccer, baseball, football, etc. team.
By and large most triathlon coaches just prescribe workouts. Sure, you can monitor them however, but it’s still just giving someone a plan to follow. Maybe you are talking with them or emailing or meeting here and there, but it’s still not what I would consider true coaching. I’m not saying that athletes won’t improve, mine do whether it’s coaching as you say or whether it’s just following a program that I wrote for them with no other interaction. I would wager that the improvement generally comes from being held accountable and/or being motivated by the coach or their own self discipline and not the actual workouts. Whereas the athlete who has the same person giving workouts AND sitting over them telling them what to do and how to do it daily is likely going to improve much quicker…at least on their limiter.
Exactly. I wish I could afford you for the coaching. I’ve heard nothing but good things about your coaching. PM me if you do anything like what I need. Thanks.
Thanks fat bastard!
I am presently full and not taking any more athletes. But Faris, if you’re reading this… email me, let’s talk
I would personally try and find someone local to you that you can run with a few times and actually get to know first. Building a successful plan like you want involves the coach getting to know your style, your limits, how you recover, ect and that is hard through email or even over the phone.
You might also PM Barry P. I haven’t used him as a coach, but he’s giving me (and others here) really good advice, and if I was in the position to hire someone, I’d probably go to him first.
I don’t think that the definition of coaching that you prospose is coaching either
Just what is it that I propose?
…and I’m guilty of the same thing. It’s more motivating or encouraging, or whatever. But coaching, true coaching, is a face to face on deck relationship that a team coach would do…whether dealing with individuals like swimming, running, cycling, some triathlon or when dealing with a soccer, baseball, football, etc. team.
And on this i totally 100% agree with you. I have a few athletes locally that I guess I am a 1/2 coach to then as I get to see them swim bike and run on occasion but a true true true coaches coach views EVERY workout and is 100% in command of the program. 10-12 years down the road I aim to have a junior and elite squad based nearby (think club but for triathlon) where I can monitor every workout. like Joel does with the BAMF crew, PS when we are in camp and BS in Leysin and Subic. A squad and a full time on site coach is the REAL WORLD OF COACHING.
By and large most triathlon coaches just prescribe workouts. Sure, you can monitor them however, but it’s still just giving someone a plan to follow. Maybe you are talking with them or emailing or meeting here and there, but it’s still not what I would consider true coaching. I’m not saying that athletes won’t improve, mine do whether it’s coaching as you say or whether it’s just following a program that I wrote for them with no other interaction. I would wager that the improvement generally comes from being held accountable
for most folks the accountability thing is all it takes. the fear of a consequence or that “hey I’m paying money for this i’d better do it”
and/or being motivated by the coach or their own self discipline and not the actual workouts. Whereas the athlete who has the same person giving workouts AND sitting over them telling them what to do and how to do it daily is likely going to improve much quicker…at least on their limiter.
in a sense… it’s the sensory feedback that one gleans as a coach from being present that makes it more effective. Seeing the athlete in action… and being able to tweak something in their stroke, stride, position right then and there that makes it REAL coaching
Sorry, I didn’t see your response until now but I thought I answered your question in another post anyway. I’ve been cycling for 3+ years. Most of the first 2 years were “base” work though I wasn’t calling it that. So this year when I started doing lot of hills and intervals I could handle the intensity that EN does for the out season.
I didn’t start running until Aug/Sept of this past year. I’ve really not tried to push it since I was 240+ pounds and trying to shed the weight without getting injured. I’ve been able to continue shedding weight but if I run too long or hard I get injured. EN’s plan calls for a lot of intensity (for me anyway) that I need a better run base to do. It isn’t a lack of cardio capacity. My limiter is muscular endurance when it comes to running.
Also, I need to strengthen my joints and tendons after years of neglect in order to run longer. I’ve slimmed down to about 215 pounds since I started running last fall and totally changed my body composition so I’m not as hard on my joints as I was a few months back. But I know the key to this sport is staying injury free and consistently training. EN does a lot of 1 hour runs. I can definitely run for an hour but not without risking an injury that puts my long term goals at risk. Make sense?
I have been adjusting the EN run portion of the plan but I also want to add a fair bit of strength and stability training back to my routine and that isn’t currently offered under their umbrella to my knowledge though Rich did PM me with some additional info to check out today.
