Another Rockman RR (newbie to tri, long!)

Hello to all, I’m pretty new to posting in this forum and this is my first RR, so it may be a bit too wordy so feel free to ignore and whatnot.

I wanted to make it to the deal at Chip’s the night before, I found out about it the day before from ryan (I believe…) when he offered to give me a last minute ride before I found a car (my friend’s convertible red mustang, not your average tri car…for obvious bike-transport shortcomings), but was unable to remember where it was. So, I camped and psychologically tried to prepare. This was my first tri that I really cared about and my first one in years, as I last did tris when I was 18 and 19 years old (I’m 24 now, racing in the 25 AG). I’m training for IMMoo.

Anyways, race morning, I was up at 4:40 am, packed up camp and made it to the transition by 5:10. Spent a bunch of time at the transition getting ready (as it was certainly a learning experience for me). Got wetsuited-up and was out warming up with the group, I was lucky enough to be in a really good place for the start (just at the edge of the sandbar, close to the course) and got going. Happily I’d opted to get something different from my normal swede’s for the swim (aquasphere kaimans, for anyone interested) and was off. I’m not used to open water swimming or wetsuits for that matter. Sighting is also new to me and definitely added minutes, as I had to break rhythm to sight. I zig-zagged more than a bit on the course and, like everyone else, got caught up in the vegetation on the back stretch. I came in at 32:45 for the swim and was pretty happy with my position, managed to “run” to the transition, though I was quite winded.

At T1, I realized that I’d left the cleat covers on my shoes, thankfully before I tried to jump on the bike, but I got out pretty quickly and felt good for my first real transition (2 minutes, 26 seconds). The bike felt great, I don’t have any of that crazy expensive aero bike/expensive aero wheel combo, but I do have a PowerTap. I averaged about 228 watts (I weight 165 FWIW) and just under 22 mph on the ride. The ride also taught me that HEED tastes AWFUL. I’d also have been happy with one more aid station on the bike-they just seemed a little too far apart for my taste. I was also very happy that I’d talked to a friend of mine with more tri-experience than I and bought some $0.99 water bottles at walgreens, so I didn’t have to give up my nicer H2O bottles. I started out with two servings of Raspberry Hammer gel mixed in with my water for the ride and quickly dispensed of those. I had one intersection without a cop and with traffic on the way back, but in the end all was well and it felt really really good to come into T2 without many bikes there and with them ALL being crazy aero bikes with crazy aero wheelsets. I finished the bike in 2:38:56.

At T2, I quickly slipped into my running shoes (with brand new speed laces in them…), had a gel and some water and was off in 1 minute, 43 seconds. It took me probably 4 miles to get my feet under me. Over the first half of the 13.1, I was passed by probably 15 people, but in the second half it all came together for me and I passed a bunch of those people who’d apparently overdone the first half. Those endurolytes certainly helped a LOT, as did the flat coke for the last part of the run. Got to the second to last aid station at 11:44 and they told me it was only 2 miles to go (HA!), so I (to my great surprise) though that I might be able to make it in under 5 hours and turned up the pace, about 5 minutes from there I ran into a nice dude from louisiana who had the same idea i did and I ran with him for awhile. During the run I found out that my cross country experience in High School in Colorado came in very hand (though I live in chicago now, so I don’t have that whole altitude/hill running training advantage) and I was able to stride out a bunch on the descents, allowing me to make up for my pitiful ascents. I ended up a bit ahead of the nice louisianan (sp?) and finished in 5:00:10. I sorta sprinted to the finish, as much as I was capable, and being 30 feet away, seeing the clock click over to 5 hours pissed me off a bit, but I was happy.

My original expectations, with my coach’s input, was between a 5:35 and 5:45, so a 5:00:10 was a more than welcome surprise. All in all it was a fantastic first HIM and first real triathlon for me. I’m very hopeful for IMMoo, maybe I can eek out that Kona qual (though it’s a long shot). I think I might need to rent some of those crazy aero wheels, or start selling my body for medical tests to afford a really nice bike…

Chip, thanks a ton for a fantastic race!! I can’t imagine a first year HIM going nearly as well as that did. My only suggestions have already been voiced: more organized start, some sort of pacing marks on the run (I’d have been plenty happy if all of the volunteers at the aid stations knew exactly where they were, as that would have been just as helpful as marks on the road). Thanks a ton, you’ve done a great job.

Thanks for reading this length rant,

Aaron Black

Congratulations on a fantastic race! I can’t believe it’s your first 1/2. Don’t you know it’s not supposed to go that smoothly for your first 1/2? Didn’t you get the memo? :slight_smile:

Congrats again!!

The memo, unfortunately had an incorrect TPS coversheet :wink:

I’m still completely elated. The only thing that was an issue is that I got quite sunburned, I used spray on sunscreen before the swim and have a perfect outline of my trisuit burned into my skin.

Aaron

ouch- I’ve got 2 2-inch-wide arcs on my lats from not shooting enough on…

Try the coppertone sport 50SPF spray on- I didn’t burn anyplace it hit, and I’m as white as they come!

Congrats on a great race! Your first one, and you came this -><- close to cracking 5 hours. Based on this, I’d say you’re going to be fun to watch at IMMoo.

I got sunburned too. I put on what I thought was a lot of sunblock, but still ended up with slightly toasted shoulders/arms.

Something I noticed, after the race… Right next to the run out exit, there where two bottles of spray-on bullfrog sunscreen. Doh! You can see 'em here, right next to the cones as I happily zip past, obviously in a hurry to bludgeon me legs on some hills.

http://dump.segv.org/images/rockman_t2.jpg

To hijack my own thread, what kind of gains do you all think I would gain from an aero frame (I’m thinking Felt B2/Cervelo P2-range) and/or an aero wheelset (maybe 808’s or 999’s) on the bike? Or maybe aerobars on my current bike (06 Cervelo Soloist Team). I went 2:38:56 at rockman with an average of 226 Watts (2 less than I said above, I check my records…) and 21.26 mph.

Thanks,
Aaron

I would say aerobars + fit on the soloist first (and throw a $65 disc cover on the PT), wheels second, then a new bike.

As a comparison, here’s what I did:

Entire workout (200 watts):
Duration: 2:34:11 (2:33:55 was the official chip time)
Work: 1854 kJ
TSS: 204.5 (intensity factor 0.892)
Norm Power: 215
VI: 1.07
Distance: 56.284 mi

That was on an ‘07 B2, with 404s and a disc cover on the rear (PT SL hub) and fairly aggressive fit. I’m 6’ @ 173 as an additional data point.

LOL, I stared at those as I ran by- thought they were someone’s nutrition.

To the OP- you might just want to look at clip-ons. Haven’t rode it yet, but it sounds very technical, like drop bars may come in handy for those of us in the 20-22 MPH range.

so it would most likely be a noticeable change…To echo your stats and give a more complete look at what my powertap and setup are: (BTW, all these data are per the poweragent software, not the timing and I didn’t start the PT up until about 50 meters into the ride

Entire Workout: 226 watts
Duration: 2:38:37
Work: 2155 kJ
TSS: not sure what this is…
Norm Power: hmm, I’m usually around 215 myself on this length ride
VI: ?
Distance: 56.19 mi
Speed: 21.26
Cadence: 88
Torque: 8.35

I’m on an 06 Soloist Team, Mavic Open Pro Powertap Pro Hub Rear wheel, stock front Easton Vista, Origin-8 CF Wing Roadie Bar, no aero helmet

EDIT: I’m 5’11" 166 lbs

Thanks again for the help and the kind words!!!

Aaron

The norm power, tss, VI stats come from CyclingPeaks WKO+. Basically, norm power is going to be a bit higher, by factoring out intervals where you coasted. TSS is training stress score, not really important here. VI is the ratio of norm power to average power. Norm power and VI are somewhat important to look at, but that’s another discussion. :slight_smile:

You put out more power than I did, but went ~5 minutes slower. We rode the same course at roughly the same time, so we had the same wind/conditions, etc. Your biggest aero gains, if you’re riding drop bars today will come from adding aerobars, and getting a good bike fit. Getting your body ( by far the biggest contributor to aero drag ) more aero is where you’ll get the most bang for your buck, IMHO.

GReat job. amazing transitions for a newbie.
Total out of my rear guess. I’d guess you’d add 1-1.5 mph with aero wheels, aero bars and good position. A little faster still with an aero frame. Guys like Francois, Jens, Paolo, Rappstar, Monty, Dan could probably give you a better number.

great job! we’re you wearing the wisconsin jersey?

Dan
www.aiatriathlon.com

great job! we’re you wearing the wisconsin jersey?

Dan
www.aiatriathlon.com

Nope, but I know who you’re talking about. I was the other guy with longish hair. i was in a white tri top and black tri shorts, number 518. I apparently finished 57 seconds after coredump if that helps…

Aaron,

I was the guy you mentioned in your post. I’m not from Louisiana but from Southern IL (Scott AFB). Since we both have the same machine (Soloist), I have gained more speed with the aerobars. I enjoyed the sprint to the finish, and we almost broke 5hrs! C-YA @ IMLOU

scott

Aaron,

I was the guy you mentioned in your post. I’m not from Louisiana but from Southern IL (Scott AFB). Since we both have the same machine (Soloist), I have gained more speed with the aerobars. I enjoyed the sprint to the finish, and we almost broke 5hrs! C-YA @ IMLOU

scott

Hey scott,

it was great to run with you. I’m not actually doing IMLou, I’m doing IM Wisconsin. You told me you had some questions about issues you were having with the soloist, feel free to PM me over them. Anyways, great race!!!

Aaron

aerobars

good bike fit (after aerobars are added)

disc cover from wheelbuilder.com for the PT wheel

any “cheap” (this being a relative term) eBay aero front wheel

aero helmet

A Soloist is a plenty aero frame, you’re not gonna get much if any gains from a new one.
You can tweak what you have for not too too much $, and have 99% of the aero go-fast goodness of the best tri bikes in the biz.

Awesome first HIM. Those :10 have gotta be killing ya, huh? :wink:

Those :10 have gotta be killing ya, huh? :wink:

Yes, yes they are. It really brought out the competitive streak in me. I was 30ish feet from the finish line, my watch said I had a chance, but the race time said 4:59:57. I think my whole body made a gesture of defeat when i saw that, but I picked it up. Funny huh, I would have been plenty happy with a 5:45 and had no expectation of the 5:00:10, yet those ten seconds…Haha, it’s just irrational, I am positively elated with my race, couldn’t be more excited for the rest of the season

AB

Hey, great race and report! I’m the guy from Colorado you talked with out in the parking area after the race. Almost cracking 5 hours in your first HIM shows you have some decent talent. IMMOO may end up being a great race for you. It would be really sweet if you could get to Kona. Maybe someday you’ll come back to Colorado and do a HIM.

Figured I’d include the pics I found of myself from Tri-3:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/arnabio/20070610_Rockman__260.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/arnabio/20070610_Rockman__244.jpg
apparently I’m not as photogenic as I’d like to think…but I do have sweet invisible aerobars!!!

I remember seeing you, This has been great being able to match pictures with names of people I saw at Rockman. I’m still waiting for a photo of me to show up somewhere around here to latch my name onto.