Was anyone else stunned by the poise these two showed in the marathon?
When Andreas started his chase, I couldn’t believe that he’d just finished a stupendous bike split. He was running with perfect form, eating up the miles. I fully expected him to blow up after a mile or so, but man, he just kept going. If there’s anyone that I wish I could run like, it would be him. What shoes was he wearing?
And Mirinda’s run left me speechless. She’s at 135 miles of the hardest race in her life, and she drops the hammer. In those last 6 miles, she turned in a monster run. Wow. Add her to the list of “People I don’t want chasing me”.
Raelert looked like he was running a 10k those first 10 miles, he was a man on a mission and I believe he admitted he went all in on the front half of the marathon to try and bridge up to Crowie. Inspirational effort, and to gut out a 3rd place the way he did was amazing. He and his brother are gonna be fun to watch next year.
And Rinny…god damn do I love to watch her run, her form is amazing and you could see how hard she was pushing to close that gap to Chrissie.
In both cases the efforts ultimately failed and the record books will show that neither won their race…but they’ll get nothing but the utmost respect from everyone watching and it’s clear they have what it takes to contend for the title in the foreseeable future.
No sh*t on both counts. Amazing performances by many athletes. Another great race this year and to see the way the pro guys and girls race is crazy. It seemed like everyone stepped up their game this year and made it exciting to watch. Congrats to everyone, pros and AG’ers, that raced.
I would guess Andy was never running any closer to “blowing up” than anyone else, including Crowie. I kept reading comments by people expecting he couldn’t hold that kind of pace…but the 6:10-6:15 pace he was running for much of the race is bang on the 2:40-ish pace he is capable of running. Definitely a solid effort, and his running is beautiful, for a triathlete.
They are definitely two of the more beautiful runners in IM triathlon right now, though. And fast.
I think Raelert has the best form of anyone in the race with Rinny in a close second.
However, Raelert actually looks like he’s running faster on camera than he actually is.
I’m not sure what it is, but him and Crowie were actually running pretty much the same pace for the first 10 miles.
Crowie has great form as well but looks slower.
Same was the case last year, when the commentators said that Crowie had hit the wall coming off the bike, but was actually putting massive time into Raelert and Macca.
I would guess Andy was never running any closer to “blowing up” than anyone else, including Crowie. I kept reading comments by people expecting he couldn’t hold that kind of pace…but the 6:10-6:15 pace he was running for much of the race is bang on the 2:40-ish pace he is capable of running. Definitely a solid effort, and his running is beautiful, for a triathlete.
They are definitely two of the more beautiful runners in IM triathlon right now, though. And fast.
I beg to differ…he went 1:00:55 for the first 10.2 miles, a 5:58 pace (2:36:28 marathon), and it’s possible he had already started slowing down before 10.2. The next 7 miles were covered in exactly 49 minutes–7 min/mi–then he picked it back up to a 6:25 pace through 26.2. Given that those splits don’t tell the whole story–maybe he was even faster through 9 miles then started blowing up; maybe he was slower through 19 or 20 miles then crushed the last 10K–I’d say it’s pretty clear that yes, he was running closer to ‘blowing up’ because, frankly, he did blow up.
However, Raelert actually looks like he’s running faster on camera than he actually is.
I’d probably say they are running as fast as they look, but other people like Crowie are running faster than they look.
Rinny vs Chrissie is the same way. For all the talk about Rinny’s form and “dropping the hammer”, Chrissie’s marathon split was only 32 seconds slower, with maybe the only difference being that Rinny plowed through the finish while Chrissie absorbed the atmosphere of the win a bit.
I think Raelert has the best form of anyone in the race with Rinny in a close second.
However, Raelert actually looks like he’s running faster on camera than he actually is.
I’m not sure what it is, but him and Crowie were actually running pretty much the same pace for the first 10 miles.
Crowie has great form as well but looks slower.
Same was the case last year, when the commentators said that Crowie had hit the wall coming off the bike, but was actually putting massive time into Raelert and Macca.
I noticed the same…Raelaert “looks” like he is running faster but is not. Looking at the video, it appears that Crowie has more knee bend when he lands and spends more time (hard to know for sure) with each foot on the ground as he has more knee flex to work through before straightening that leg. Andreas seems to have less knee flex and spends more time flying. Their cadences do not appear to be that much difference.
It’s hard to tell how the heck CW runs so fast. She literally looks like she has one foot on the ground at all times and her cadence is not that much difference that Mirinda’s. Given their difference in height, CW’s stride length may actually be simliar to Mirinda, but she does not have to do it by taking flight on each stride as much…eyeballing from the front I’d swear that CW was running at 3:10 pace while Mirinda was doing 2:52…not true. They both run the same speed!!! I think CW’s running style does not translate into a great “straight out 10K or mile speed” as Mirinda’s. Mirinda loosed a bit more stride length with that style of running in an Ironman compared to Chrissie, but really shines “even more” in short races. Chrissie Wellington’s stride looks very similar to Joanna Zeiger’s who lost a medal in the Sydney olympics when she did not really have that “next gear” to sprint against Magali Messmer. That fast shuffle stride only gets you so fast.
I’d suspect that if we put Mirinda and CW ona track and made them run every distance from 100m to 10,000m Mirinda wins every time. Look at Mirinda at HyVee. Chrissie probably would not be able to put in that kind of a 10k in a short course, but I suppose we don’t know until we see it. She’s an amzing athlete.
Watching Andreas run was a thing of beauty I must have pulled the play back back at least 5 times to watch it. Makes me pumped to go out and do more running.
I think it was just being able to watch it. He ran the opening 10.2 miles slower than Macca and Jacobs did last year, and only 4 seconds faster than Crowie did last year… Check the splits and compare last year to this year for splits 1-4 on the run. Last year Macca was faster than Raelert in splits 1,2, and 4. Raelert only made up time on split 3 last year. This year split 1 for Raelert was 6:10/mi, split 2 was 5:46/mi. He ran 10.2 miles in 60:55. Last year Macca ran the first 10.2 in 60:20, Crowie in 60:59, and Jacobs in 59:20 (split 1 @5:56/mi, split 2 @5:42/mi)!
Was anyone else stunned by the poise these two showed in the marathon?
When Andreas started his chase, I couldn’t believe that he’d just finished a stupendous bike split. He was running with perfect form, eating up the miles. I fully expected him to blow up after a mile or so, but man, he just kept going. If there’s anyone that I wish I could run like, it would be him. What shoes was he wearing?
And Mirinda’s run left me speechless. She’s at 135 miles of the hardest race in her life, and she drops the hammer. In those last 6 miles, she turned in a monster run. Wow. Add her to the list of “People I don’t want chasing me”.
I have the outmost respect for both these athletes. But did you see how Chrissie and Crowie looked at the finish line? They where toast. My view from the cheap seats is that if Mirinda had enough left to “drop the hammer” in the last 6 miles, she really should have grabbed on to Chrissie’s wheel on the bike as Chrissie went by. It probably would have made her uncomfortable, but if she wants to beat Chrissie, she needs to go there.
I’m thinking Carfrae would grab onto Wellington’s wheel if she could. But she can’t. and normally CW is going to outswim her as well, so there’s that. She has a long way to go to catch up to CW on bike ability.
I’m thinking Carfrae would grab onto Wellington’s wheel if she could. But she can’t. and normally CW is going to outswim her as well, so there’s that. She has a long way to go to catch up to CW on bike ability.
I think she COULD have this year but it would be scary, unknown territory. Normally? probably not.
Actually, until now Raelert was never a fast enough IM marathon runner to win Hawaii without a bike break away. A 2:41 in Roth is not enough if he does not ride away from runners like Jacobs, Macca or Alexander. It is hardly enough to win the female race if you get of the bike with Chrissie or Mirinda.