So Spain had elections and the biggest winner got 30 percent (center left) and the next spot was sub 20 percent (center right) with the balance being a mix of hard right, hard left, regional independence and the like. Meaning no coalition government will be easy. England: May is screwed because she has a coalition government. Italy has a dysfunctional coalition whose two biggest members have opposite views on some pretty big issues. Germany may look like Spain after their election. France doesn’t have a majority elected president but a compromise. This has happened slowly and almost under the radar but it leads me to two possible conclusions. First is a rise in regionalism/ sectionalism which has a negative impact on the nation state. Remeber about 150 years or so ago a good portion of Europe was still duchy of this or principality of that. This would lead to the dissolution of the EU and or the associated nation states. Second for the latter to not occur there needs to be something to compel or foster a need for a greater association than the regional or sectional mind set, which seems to historically be conflict, otherwise known as war.
Morphs to Brussels stating goods, people, services and capital are inseparable and can all move freely anywhere in 27
Local populations in Burnley and its equivalents in remaining 27 states think fuck that
Some genius says Turkey is joining with millions of Muslims who are going to take your jobs and institute sharia law
As above they think fuck that
All 27’s leaders are "the elite’, attend same chools, work at rothschilds and then go in to politics to do to their populuses what they think is good for them
Agsin everyone says fuck that. These people got rich, we got migrants who took our jobs and poor
Time for a change. Socialists on the up. Hard right on the up and we are where we are
Thank God for NATO. We play a huge card here. Steady as she goes.
Europe has an economic and war refugee migration problem that they are grappling with unevenly. This contributes to splits and factions.
It has been a while since Europe has been at war. Historically they do war.
God, more specifically Gods, also factor in the never ending Crusade between Muslim v. Christian. How well or poorly the Muslim assimilation goes is a dominant influence in factional politics of both France and Germany.
Germany is the dominant economic engine for the continent. How she responds as that leader of the union will be critical. Was it a tell that they went all the way to Oct. to settle the Brexit fiasco? Or was it that summer vacation time is not to be messed with?
Russia’s play with east Europe and how East Europe leans is probably most critical. Russia will see weakness in the EU and deftly step in. See first point.
I for one shudder to think how a second Trump term would influence. After all it is America first!
Thank God for NATO. We play a huge card here. Steady as she goes.
Europe has an economic and war refugee migration problem that they are grappling with unevenly. This contributes to splits and factions.
It has been a while since Europe has been at war. Historically they do war.
God, more specifically Gods, also factor in the never ending Crusade between Muslim v. Christian. How well or poorly the Muslim assimilation goes is a dominant influence in factional politics of both France and Germany.
Germany is the dominant economic engine for the continent. How she responds as that leader of the union will be critical. Was it a tell that they went all the way to Oct. to settle the Brexit fiasco? Or was it that summer vacation time is not to be messed with?
Russia’s play with east Europe and how East Europe leans is probably most critical. Russia will see weakness in the EU and deftly step in. See first point.
I for one shudder to think how a second Trump term would influence. After all it is America first!
Trump will have little influence. NATO is immaterial. This is about local politics in Europe. Germany keeps kicking the can down the road politically. I could see each of the Federal states splitting up to historical borders. Germany is what 130 years old. Italy about the same. Switzerland little older. Belgium 100ish.
As much as I hate to write this when you have this many countries and this many people so close to each other violent conflict is inevitable. I hope Germany can sustain its economy because if it falters immigrants are going to get the shit kicked out of them for sport.
So Spain had elections and the biggest winner got 30 percent (center left) and the next spot was sub 20 percent (center right) with the balance being a mix of hard right, hard left, regional independence and the like. Meaning no coalition government will be easy. England: May is screwed because she has a coalition government. Italy has a dysfunctional coalition whose two biggest members have opposite views on some pretty big issues. Germany may look like Spain after their election. France doesn’t have a majority elected president but a compromise. This has happened slowly and almost under the radar but it leads me to two possible conclusions. First is a rise in regionalism/ sectionalism which has a negative impact on the nation state. Remeber about 150 years or so ago a good portion of Europe was still duchy of this or principality of that. This would lead to the dissolution of the EU and or the associated nation states. Second for the latter to not occur there needs to be something to compel or foster a need for a greater association than the regional or sectional mind set, which seems to historically be conflict, otherwise known as war.
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I think it is the end game of governments promising what they cannot deliver. Neither the left nor the right can give the population what they want particularly in the case of rising and ongoing debt. There are few solvent gov’t Germany and Holland being some of the few and they are not too happy with carrying the load and bailing the others. So things are fracturing. In the near future I don’t see war between European countries. I don’t see enough young people willing to be duped into that. Widespread civil unrest more likely.
Evidently you’ve never been here. Weak Windy insult…two points deducted
You’re right, I haven’t been there in a couple of decades (my family visited Chicago for a few days last month, and liked it). I hear so many complaints about Illinois in general, rural demise and inner city violence (mostly from you), I honestly don’t know. It all sounds kind of terrible, yet you seem to outline two clearly different levels of terrible.
So Spain had elections and the biggest winner got 30 percent (center left) and the next spot was sub 20 percent (center right) with the balance being a mix of hard right, hard left, regional independence and the like. Meaning no coalition government will be easy. England: May is screwed because she has a coalition government. Italy has a dysfunctional coalition whose two biggest members have opposite views on some pretty big issues. Germany may look like Spain after their election. France doesn’t have a majority elected president but a compromise. This has happened slowly and almost under the radar but it leads me to two possible conclusions. First is a rise in regionalism/ sectionalism which has a negative impact on the nation state. Remeber about 150 years or so ago a good portion of Europe was still duchy of this or principality of that. This would lead to the dissolution of the EU and or the associated nation states. Second for the latter to not occur there needs to be something to compel or foster a need for a greater association than the regional or sectional mind set, which seems to historically be conflict, otherwise known as war.
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Having a series of coalition governments from one state to the next is purely a function of “having more than 2 parties” and also “having various forms of proportional representation.” In this sense, it is neither good nor bad.
Good public services but all supplied on the never never, someone else’s money
Reform across the EU is required
The East will not relent on attitudes to immigration
The Southern European states will not stop spending money they don’t have
The North would never countenance a Southern European finance minister or pooled taxes
So if I may summarize, the world is due for a shit storm, basically pitting the haves vs. the have nots. Although in some cases even the haves don’t have enough XXX to sustain their country. The very sad part is if we could work together we could avoid the ungodly amount of death and destruction that is coming. But I think that there people out there that believe a good cleansing is what’s needed.
So Spain had elections and the biggest winner got 30 percent (center left) and the next spot was sub 20 percent (center right) with the balance being a mix of hard right, hard left, regional independence and the like. Meaning no coalition government will be easy. England: May is screwed because she has a coalition government. Italy has a dysfunctional coalition whose two biggest members have opposite views on some pretty big issues. Germany may look like Spain after their election. France doesn’t have a majority elected president but a compromise. This has happened slowly and almost under the radar but it leads me to two possible conclusions. First is a rise in regionalism/ sectionalism which has a negative impact on the nation state. Remeber about 150 years or so ago a good portion of Europe was still duchy of this or principality of that. This would lead to the dissolution of the EU and or the associated nation states. Second for the latter to not occur there needs to be something to compel or foster a need for a greater association than the regional or sectional mind set, which seems to historically be conflict, otherwise known as war.
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Having a series of coalition governments from one state to the next is purely a function of “having more than 2 parties” and also “having various forms of proportional representation.” In this sense, it is neither good nor bad.
It’s not coalition government per se, but the composition of the coalition and or the vastness between differing views.
Evidently you’ve never been here. Weak Windy insult…two points deducted
You’re right, I haven’t been there in a couple of decades (my family visited Chicago for a few days last month, and liked it). I hear so many complaints about Illinois in general, rural demise and inner city violence (mostly from you), I honestly don’t know. It all sounds kind of terrible, yet you seem to outline two clearly different levels of terrible.
Chicago is vast in every since if the word. The violence is generally contained to a few neighborhoods and is gang related. I get frustrated by the abject abandonment of the folks that live there by the politicians who rake advantage to adcance their careers and agendas at the expense of some poor kids’ lives.