I’ve got a older P3, I think it’s a 2000 or 2001, whenever they made the all black paint scheme. I’m not racing as much as I’d like, so I have the bike for sale.
I’ve noticed that most of the potential buyers seem to think the bike is too old. I’m not looking for people to support my thinking so I can sell my bike, but am I the only one who doesn’t see this as a “weakness” in the frame? I’ve had other bikes that were and are older than five years and they didn’t turn into noodles.
I’m just guessing this is part of the need for something that is brand new. Is there a life span for each frame material?
Frames don’t “go soft”. This is another example of what types of unfounded, yet highly believeable lies people put out on the internet. I liken it to “That Red Bull will kill you. A friend of a sister of a hairdresser’s cousin heard that on the internet, so it’s gotta be true…”
I know someone who bought a former pro’s Hooker, and this guy was notoriously bad on equipment. Guess what? The bike is now about ten years old and rides as good as the day he got it.
What price do you have the frame? That could be a deterrent.
ease up, man, you got me riding tubbies last year. I should send you a bill for the difference between tire prices and glue (althouogh, I must admit that the frame i bought last winter has an integrated jeadset - sorry, I slipped). Plus, I do know what a hooker is, and I’ve seen one. If I had the money, I’d prefer one over the other.
But it’s all about the ride, especially when you can ride some very excellent Veloflex tyres. They have just a tasty casing. The rubber even smells tasty.
I’m off the Integrated Headset thing. I still think they suck, but some semblance of not having to throw away perfectly good frames has come into place here, so I am off of the rant.
I figgered that you knew what a Hooker was. I am especially on edge because I can’t find a 650c 1" steerer fork (with 300 mm of steer tube) for a decent price. I can’t build up the Power V. I should not take my frustrations oot on you, so I will take them oot on the road, eh.
all dura-ace 9 speed with Dura-ace hubs on Velocity deep rims
rear Velocity wheel has a mylar covering making the wheel a disc
one pair of HED3 carbon tri spoke wheels, clinchers, with cassette and tires
Cervelo brake calipers
Chris King headset
wipperman chain
Syntace aero bars
Syntace brake levers
Syntace handle bars
QR seat cover fot the flite saddle
The bike has three sets of tires, one 23mm for training and a set of 20mm for racing so you can get the back tire closer to the frame, two more you can use on a trainer or for spares.
Also have an extra stem I’ll include to help you fit the bike to your liking.
Bicycle comes with 3 sets of cassettes, a 12-25 on the velocity’s, a 12-21 on the HED3’s and an extra 11-21.
I’ll throw in my soft sided, padded travel case too. The case is great for traveling to races, no grease in you car, can be put on your car’s roof and it’s easy to carry your bike into hotel rooms.
All for $2200 plus shipping.
(located in Atlanta if anyone close wants to test ride it)
I’m 5’ 9" and the bike fits me fine, I just can’t dedicate enough time to racing to justify keeping the bike.
ok, now, you’re going about this all wrong. You should be telling him that aluminum only has a useful life of about 4 years. Then, you make a lowball offer, get your 650 fork, and sell off the rest!
Just recently I read a piece where they actually proved through destructive testing that aluminum frames in fact DO NOT go soft. There was a maximum loss of overall frame stiffness of something like 5% throughout the life of the frame, and only moments before complete mechanical failure (frame breaking in half) did the stiffness decrease noticably. Now of course I reckon there’s a ton of people on this board who think they’ll feel those 5%. Rrrrrrrrrrrrright!
On another note, I’d love to hear your thoughts on integrated headsets as I’m about to pull the trigger on an Eddy Merckx Premium frame that comes with the integrated. The frame rules but what about the headset?
I don’t have a real problem with those headsets as long as the cup is not part of the frame. If you can replace the inner cup, then it’s cool with me. I did see something pretty ugly; however: an ovalised real headset. You can lunch a real headset frame, as well.
The whole frame going soft thing is another way to get people on new steeds every couple of years, plain and simple. Most people could ride and aluminium frame for fifteen years (or more) of 10,000 + miles per year as long as they are not overweight.
who is THEY? and why should we listen? something as simple as a saline enviroment can destroy unprotected aluminium … it also depends ALOT on the al alloy … i bet cervelo uses shitty alloys in gay shapes to suck in weiners … lab tests are nice, but al frames DO degrade it all depends on conditions. if you keep your bike in a hot ass car all summer and ride it in a salty winter slush crap it’ll die real fast … ride on nice, sunny dry days and keep it indoors it’ll last a long time.
I think one of the issues may be the wheels. I think it is very hard to get good value out of a package, selling bike and racewheels separately probably lands you more. Think about a P3 complete for $1800, and a set of HED3’s for $400, those sound like two unbelievable deals, and it still adds up to the same $2200. But I could be wrong, I’ve never sold a second hand Cervelo, but it’s just a gut feel I have.
