Allen/Maffetone mumbo-jumbo RIP

See: Byrn,G @ IMC 2007.

Anyone got any crystals?

Can you expand on that?

I think it’s a bit short-sighted to judge a method based on a bad day that no one save a handful of people have any idea about.

It’s been dead for quite a while you know.

I agree that the Maffetone stuff is questionable at best or mumbo jumbo if you want. However, if you are trying to connect that dots and somehow figure out what happened to Gordo, you are way off base. I have no idea what happened, but from the outside looking in, he had an off day. It happens - even to the very best.

Wow a 9 hour race and people are beating up on Gordo…even Stadler has done a 10+ race in Kona and come back to win twice!

Now this has to be one of the most ignorant posts I have ever seen on ST - “the allen stuff is dead” - oh boy!

I just finished Maffetone’s most recent book and I thought it was very good; especially the section on diet and carbohydrate sensitivity. Hard to argue with Mark Allen - sure some of his Shaman stuff is a bit weird (which he himself acknowledges in the most recent issue of Triathlete), but the training advice he gives seems very solid from the advice he gives to beginner’s training for their first Ironman (his 18-week plan) to his advice to the studs that can qualify for Kona. Another book that is very good and very useful is Brad Kearn’s “Breakthrough Triathlon Training” - Kearn’s was coached by and attributes his training philosophy to Maffetone. Anyway, I’m not saying that school of thought is the only one or the best one or should be followed religiously, but one of the really fun things about the sport of triathlon is to treat your body as a science experiment and read about and try different training techniques and seeing how they work for you.

I’m not saying that school of thought is the only one or the best one or should be followed religiously,


I think your point is good. Allen/Maffetone is literally wrong, but the gist of it is more or less sound advice.

A 9hr IM is a hell of a lot faster than I go off of my own training.

Allen/Maffetone is literally wrong, but the gist of it is more or less sound advice.

Exactly. - anybody that’s followed gordo’s blog knew he was in his best shape. An off day can happen to anyone.

I agree one of the dumbest post ever.

I don’t think that Mark Allen ever had any success using those methods :slight_smile:

As others have mentioned, if you plan on judging a training system or athlete based on one race (that was a 9 hour IM!), most of us had better be doing some radical changes to our methods.