Alcohol and Tri Training

I saw the thread about article on drinking too much and endurance sports. Of course, that was about overhdration with water.

But the title made me wonder about the effects of drinking alchohol on triathlon training.

Let’s make a few baseline assumptions first though. Assume someone is drinking more than just 1-2 drinks - which I think is unlikely to have any real negative effect - but less than getting drunk with a hangover - which I think we all know has got to be horrible for the body.

Also, I think we all know that alcohol is a ton of empty calories, just like sugar. So unless that is wrong, that’s an easy conclusion.

But does alcohol consumption also (i) inhibit muscle development, (ii) retard building endurance, (iii) prevent the body from absorbing vitamans, etc., or (iv) have other negative effects like messing up how your body stores carbs or glycogen for fuel?

I’m just curious what scientific or medical knowledge or analysis is out there on this subject or would be useful in answering this question.

Do a google for the physiology specifics.

Obviously one or two drinks won’t hurt anybody. In fact most studies indicate that moderate drinkers outlive abstainers, but excessive drinking can have a potential negative effect on all aspects of your life, not just athletics. Still, it amazes me how well some athletes manage to perform despite heavy drinking.

ton of empty calories, just like sugar

Tell that to your brain and muscles.

The drink here and there is neither going to harm nor help your training. A 12pack a night might have a dementrial effect on it.

I am not opposed to having a number drinks during a rest week or in the off season, but I have noticed that having a lot of drinks (5-8) seems to depress my breathing functions for a few days. I have asthma and it’s as though I am having a minor attack for 48 hours or so.

Personnaly I dont care what the studies says, I will continue to have my 2 beers every friday night.

Agreed. I have a glass of wine after dinner probably 4 nights a week.

I went a really long time without having more than 3 a night before IMLP last year. I have been less ‘good’ about that this year in prep. for Louisville, but I don’t think it’s really an issue unless it is happening all the time and disrupts workouts.

Re: Beer:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=1342955;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;
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Still, it amazes me how well some athletes manage to perform despite heavy drinking.
Cough, Kimi Raikkonen, cough. :slight_smile:

If Floyd Landis drinks whisky and beer during the tour im sure Alcohol is not too bad!

From:

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/caffeine-dehydration.htm

How alcohol dehydrates

Alcohol promotes water loss by depressing production of the antidiuretic hormone called vasopressin, which acts on the kidneys, concentrating the urine by promoting the reabsorption of water and salt into the body. Vasopressin helps to regulate the concentration of fluids in the body, and interference with its action leads to an increased loss of body fluid from urination, which can contribute towards dehydration. To make matters worse, alcohol- induced water loss can lead to the additional loss of such minerals as magnesium, potassium, calcium and zinc, which are not only important nutrients but are also involved in the maintenance of fluid balance and nerve and muscle action.

Although alcohol use beyond the recommended limits is known to be detrimental to health (and thereby to athletic performance), what evidence is there that sensible use has any ill effects? In particular, can alcohol use impair hydration status? By contrast with caffeine, the evidence is quite damning.

A UK study examined the effect of alcohol consumption on the restoration of fluid and electrolyte balance after exercise-induced dehydration (8). In four separate trial conditions, six subjects consumed drinks containing 0, 1, 2, and 4% alcohol over 60-minute period, beginning 30 minutes after the end of a dehydrating exercise session. Although a different beverage was consumed in each condition, the volume remained constant at just over two litres (equivalent to 150% of body mass loss during exercise – the amount recommended for efficient hydration).

The researchers found that the total volume of urine produced in the six hours after rehydration tended to increase in line with the alcohol content of drinks. Furthermore, the increase in blood and plasma volume during this rehydration period was markedly slower with the 4% beverage and did not ultimately rise significantly above the dehydrated level! The researchers concluded that while alcohol has a negligible diuretic effect when consumed in dilute solution (2% or less), drinks containing 4% or more of alcohol tend to delay the recovery process.

Another study investigated the effects of alcohol on pulse rate and blood volume during orthostatic tilting (changing from lying down to an upright posture) (9). Ten men and as many women drank nonalcoholic beer mixed with either alcohol (1.1g per kg of body weight) or an equivalent volume of water. Pulse rate, blood volume and blood alcohol concentration were monitored for the next eight hours, and the alcohol group were found to develop a significant relative fluid deficit, beginning two hours after ingestion and averaging 0.5 litres by three hours.

Further evidence of the detrimental effects of alcohol on hydration comes from a more recent study examining the effects of alcohol after a cycle ergometer test (10). Eleven active men cycled on the ergo and one hour later drank either alcohol (0.7g per kg of body weight) mixed with flavoured water or an equivalent volume of flavoured water alone (placebo). Measurements of a range of blood markers were taken at one, five and 22 hours.

As expected, both groups showed a drop in plasma volume after training, but this had been restored in both groups an hour after the drinks were consumed. The alcohol group (unsurprisingly) experienced a big rise in blood alcohol after their drink, but after five hours, their blood alcohol levels had fallen back to zero.

However both groups were also tested for blood viscosity (stickiness). After cycling, viscosity was raised in both groups (probably through dehydration), but while the viscosity steadily returned to normal levels in the placebo group, levels in the alcohol group remained raised, even at 22 hours, despite the fact that their plasma volume values had returned to normal. In other words, although the alcohol had left the bloodstream and hydration appeared normal in terms of blood plasma volume, the blood of those who had consumed alcohol during the recovery phases was still behaving as though the body was dehydrated! The implication is that alcohol during post-exercise recovery may have longer lasting effects than simply impairing rehydration.

Reading the above and some googled articles, it appears:

(1) Alcohol delivers particularly bad calories, because the liver turns it into fat.

(2) Alcohol is very dehydrating during recovery. Still, if you take steps to hydrate yourself for 2-3 hours after exertion and thereafter drink beer while mixing in water/gatorade, it isn’t clear to me that it matters much.

(3) There seems to be some evidence - based on one study on rats - that alcohol might inhibit muscle building/efficiency, although I expect that would take somewhat heavy usage.

(4) Seems unclear whether it affects how your body stores glycogen/carbs if you are otherwise eating well.

(5) Alcohol may inhibit the body’s absorbtion of some vitamins, although one would think that taking vitamins might handle that.


Practically speaking, it seems one should drink only in light moderation during training simply so you avoid those bad calories and get better sleep and are more “fresh” in the morning. Of course, those are pretty good reasons to stick with light moderation generally, whether one is training for tris or not.

Reading the above and some googled articles, it appears:

(1) Alcohol delivers particularly bad calories, because the liver turns it into fat.

(2) Alcohol is very dehydrating during recovery. Still, if you take steps to hydrate yourself for 2-3 hours after exertion and thereafter drink beer while mixing in water/gatorade, it isn’t clear to me that it matters much.

(3) There seems to be some evidence - based on one study on rats - that alcohol might inhibit muscle building/efficiency, although I expect that would take somewhat heavy usage.

(4) Seems unclear whether it affects how your body stores glycogen/carbs if you are otherwise eating well.

(5) Alcohol may inhibit the body’s absorbtion of some vitamins, although one would think that taking vitamins might handle that.


Practically speaking, it seems one should drink only in light moderation during training simply so you avoid those bad calories and get better sleep and are more “fresh” in the morning. Of course, those are pretty good reasons to stick with light moderation generally, whether one is training for tris or not.

Just finished 6months of research into this… (Sports physiologist)
and in a nut shell this is your answer.

Bar the taking more vitamins… I don’t agree that taking more would overcome the inhibition from alcohol.

Also, not to start an arguement but, exercise was shown in the same study metioned earlier to supress (to an extent) the dehydration effect of alcohol. Or in other words exercise decreases the dehydration effect of alcohol (when drunk post-exercise). But yes will cause some form of dehydration.

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/caffeine-dehydration.htm
I was disappointed to see that ‘pponline.com’ is not actually a website just about pee.

With respect to (i), I read a paper a few weeks ago:

pubmed link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17264221&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

The basics are that in male, but not female rats protein synthesis was inhibited with chronic alcohol consumption. Conversely, in females, but not males, there’s evidence pointing to increased protein breakdown and muscle atrophy with chronic alcohol. Not sure how releveant this is to normal heavy drinking habits though: the rats were pretty pissed, bascially drank the equivalent of straight vodka for a number of months, and had blood alcohol levels of about 1 mg/ml (versus legal driving limits which are ~0.05-0.08 mg/ml depending on where you live). In fact I think most humans are dead or comatose at best at these levels… Keep in mind rodents do have much more “powerful” and relatively bigger livers than us. Just to be sure, the most reasonable conclusion is that it’s not good to drink only vodka.

The way I read that article, alcohol does not dehydrate you, it simply hydrates you slower the more alcohol is in the drink.

Another affect alcohol has that is triathlon relevant, is it reduces the quality of your sleep. This is a somewhat long term effect too if you drink regularly. Its one of the really big gotchas of alcohol since people use it to get to sleep a lot, but they aren’t really getting real sleep!

Agreed on how alchohol hurts sleep quality.

If you have enough in your system to make you sleepier, it is going to mess with your REM sleep and hence your sleep quality.

Also, I have friends of friends who are doctors that believe that, when you drink a good bit and then go to sleep, your body produces stimulants to counteract the depressants in your blood systems (the alcohol). Hence, when your alchohol level drops, you wake up and can’t go back to sleep because of the stimulants. Personally, I have woken up a number of times around 3am or so (have no idea if the foregoing explanation is correct) when I drink a moderate amount that makes me sleepy and then go to sleep earlier than usual. (I think if you drink an immoderate amount it is more usual to sleep later.) Anyway, these guys would pound a diet coke before going to bed when partying so that the caffiene would go into their blood system to counteract the depressant and thus the body wouldn’t produce its own counteracting stimulants, but the caffiene would basically dissapate at the same time as the alcohol. Now, again, this doesn’t sound terribly scientific and I expect it is wholly inaccurate, but . . . they say it keeps them from waking up at 4am. I haven’t tried it.

If you like a drink or two after work and want good sleep, I think you pretty much need to make sure your blood alcohol level is down to a negligable level by the time you go to bed.

also, alcohol will make you think that you can dance and…
-alcohol might make you think that your invicible
-alcohol might make you think you’re more attractive to the opposite sex
-alcohol might make you sleepy
-alcohol might increase your urge to buy munchies late at night
-alcohol…blah, blah, blah

It is certainly good for dancing, glibness and being extraverted.

Btw, I did some research and a paper on extraversion-introversion in college, many moons ago. There was pretty good evidence that a biological basis exists for whether one is extraverted or introverted, namely that introverts had a higher arousal level (not sexual) in a part of their brain/cortex. As a result, then, it takes relatively less outside stimuli to raise an introvert’s arousal level to an uncomfortable level, i.e., when the person feels anxious, thus making the person avoid further stimuli. Of course, as one gets older and more experienced, a person can learn to process stimuli in a way that doesn’t increase your arousal level, for example by getting good at public speaking or learning to “work the room” at a party or business event.

One effect of alcohol, then, may very well be to depress an introvert’s arousal level so as to allow them to function more like an extravert. Now it has other effects that affects one’s social behavior or decisionmaking, like a loss of inhibitions, etc., but I personally believe alcohol does have this “positive” effect on introverts.

Not sure what you mean by reading into anything about hydration from the paper I referred to, it does not cover it. Maybe you were referring to the info that Boothrand posted? With respect to that, some colleagues of mine did something similar quite some time ago, and found more or less the same with respect to rehydration after exercise: beer didn’t hydrate you particularly well, but didn’t necessarily dehydrate either. On the other hand, light beer rehydrated much the same as water.