Looks like the pain will never end http://www.news.com.au/...163306-12428,00.html
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Right or wrong, it should be noted that this news is from Australia. I wonder if there were any Australians high in the GC who would benefit?
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The story is on Velonews, http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/13016.0.html, and Contador is being accused by a German. I don’t see it having much to do with Australia.
I thought the Germans stopped watching the Tour right around stage 5…
To me it follows that the evidence against spanish riders was covered up in Puerto.
Why the big delay in processing the evidence?
Valv. (Piti) - Who?
No, this news is from Germany and is all over the German TV and press this morning. Franke is the one of the leading antidoping experts Ww. He claims he has all the written police docs from the initial search of Fuentes. He calls it the biggest lie in the history of sports.
I think A.C. is going down!
I can’t stand Ras. but if he was pulled so should A.C. the evidence against him appears to be much stronger
Just b/c his name is mentioned in the paperwork because he was in or around the group that got busted doesn’t mean that he was participating…not fighting one way or the other, but just trying to be open minded.
Contador was essentially a no-name last year. Why would the Spanish authorities go to such trouble to cover up his involvement? Didn’t quite a few spainairds get rolled up as a result and not just favorites Basso and Ullrich? Which would cast doubt on the argument that the Spanish authorities were protecting their own while going after other nationals.
I’m just askin…
That is the info from last week. Franke’s documents clearly state that he took HMG Lepori to increase testosterone production and trigon for Asthma. the info was also passed on to the german FBI. This may be a cover up between the UCI and the spanish officals.
There’s a list of riders that were mentioned in Operation Puerto, then they were hired by Discovery and then were taken out of the list. Go check the cyclingnews.com and you’ll see this chain of events. Contador is just one of them, Basso was another one, I guess he was in it too deep to be “saved”.
The only thing that perplexes me is that many people still hold onto the notion that he could be innocent. I know it goes against conventional wisdom, but I am more inclined to feel any top pro cyclist is guilty until proven innocent (and that comes before a positive drug test). The recovery that these athletes are displaying in an intense stage race is not human!
I wish people would try to remove themselves from emotion and try to look at the facts over the past 10 years with an open mind. The stats, the facts, and the interviews from insiders paint a very very clear picture. And I am not a pessimist, but I do not believe there is a clean cyclist that can beat a drugged cyclist at the top pro ranks in a stage race.
Interesting thought, it’s a stretch but conceivable.
As I said cover up; UCI, spaniards, Disco etc. who else?
There’s a list of riders that were mentioned in Operation Puerto, then they were hired by Discovery and then were taken out of the list. Go check the cyclingnews.com and you’ll see this chain of events. Contador is just one of them, Basso was another one, I guess he was in it too deep to be “saved”.
Kind of like JFK was murdered by the CIA, and mafia? Then the US government swept it under the rug?
There’s a list of riders that were mentioned in Operation Puerto, then they were hired by Discovery and then were taken out of the list. Go check the cyclingnews.com and you’ll see this chain of events. Contador is just one of them, Basso was another one, I guess he was in it too deep to be “saved”.
Kind of like JFK was murdered by the CIA, and mafia? Then the US government swept it under the rug?
No, kind of like VP Cheney and WH Advisor Karl Rove planning to leak Valerie’s name to the press.
Not disagreeing a bit, but I’m wondering if anyone has actually done any real world comparisons on this. It would be very interesting to see what kind of advantage drugs do have at this level and what kind of an effect overall.
No way in the world could I fathom myself recovering the way that they do, that doesn’t mean it’s not possible though. In fact from personal experience there is a MASSIVE difference for me as far as recovery and load depending on how well I’m trained, just that no way in hell am I trained to that level.
I often question whether it’s possible that any of these guys perform to this level without drugs. But then I look at the fairly massive spread from the front to that back and wonder if they are all on drugs why the spread? Are the guys in the back not on drugs? Is it not possible that the guys in back relied to heavily on drugs and the guys in front simply trained harder? Naive, maybe, possible, maybe.
I’m not commenting on any individual case here but the riders in general. I find it hard to believe that everyone is on drugs, and certainly don’t believe that no one is on drugs. The truth lies somewhere between. That being the case certainly the possibility that the non druggies win out. I’m not married to either opinion, just stating the possibility.
~Matt
I was thinking last night that, after all the crap of this year’s tour, you could probably be pulled over by the law while riding your bike, or have your car searched if you have a visible bike rack, based on “probable cause.”
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It is big news in major European news outlets too such as the big Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. They call Albert Contador a “perfect follower” for Floyd.
They think it is impossible to trust anyone anymore in the cycling sport and in their eyes the pro cyclists do not get the message.
“Just loosers” is one of the stories.
Herbert
Contador was essentially a no-name last year. Why would the Spanish authorities go to such trouble to cover up his involvement? Didn’t quite a few spainairds get rolled up as a result and not just favorites Basso and Ullrich? Which would cast doubt on the argument that the Spanish authorities were protecting their own while going after other nationals.
I’m just askin…