Hey I’ve been running in the Ds trainers for a while and I was wondering how does the adizero cs compare, and how does the ACE compare to the CS?
In that line up your closest match will be Tempo. Tempo is a nice cushio to it as well but the heel is noticably higer than DS Trainer. If you go with mana, it is a pure racing flat like DS racer, however they run narrow so go halfa size larger i Asics fit is good for you.
I hate the weird tongue setup in Adizero line up, they must have a purpose to put them twisted but not a good thing if you are rushing to put the shoe on.
Are you happy with your DS Trainers? Then why change? Adidas and Asics tend to be quite distinctive fits (I find the Adidas toebox across the range tends to be too big for me). This is a good thing, otherwise only colour-scheme would set all these brands apart. The DS Trainer is one of the best-selling lightweight shoes for a reason, so don’t change just cos Haile wears an adizero
i’ve been running in the DS’s for a few years now. Just got a pair of the adizero cs’s on a closeout deal for $50 or so. I’ve worn them for a few runs and like them so far. I’ll probably stick with my DS’s as my main shoes for now.
Cuz the 14s are DRAMATICALLY different. I liked the 10-13 (excepting the 12). Like a lot of people, I am looking for a shoe to replace them.
Dramatically is a strong word in this context but fortunately putting it in capitals camps it up no end. Good reason though. Good luck - Haile looked pretty fast in his
Yes. Taller/higher profile, heavier, no longer a lightweight performance trainer…going back to “the old days.” We still have a bit longer until they hit the market, I believe, so I am running about snapping up clearance 13s
True the new DS 14’s look a bit heavier but barely, the 13’s were about 9.6 oz. and the 14’s are 10 oz. (the same as the 11’s), it’s really not that big of a difference.
Ace vs. CS - Updated midole compounds and some streamlining in the fit like Jeroen talked about. Essentially the same type of shoe. Responsive buy not soft.
Adios - Slightly more under your foot. The one big technical difference is the Torsion which extends with two fingers through the forefoot. In your hand when you flex the Adios, it snaps back into place. On your foot the shoe just feels alive. It’s the only way I can explain it. This shoe is a racing flat but we have people here training in it every day.
Is there any truth to the rumors about Adidas pulling all American sponsorships in the near future? If so, does that mean McMillan as well? Thanks in advance for the info!
I’m looking for a “new” neutral trainer. Would the Boston fit the bill? Can you compare it to something else taht may be on the market? Anything in Nike, Mizuno?
I just bought the Boston 2009 in the fair of Adidas 10k series in Brasil.
I ran the race without testing the shoes before and I was completely amazed how light this shoe is, I felt running without shoes in fact.
I was curious, does Adidas plan to ever bring back the Climacool Kona style racer they once made? I was able to get one of the last 3 my shop had (thankfully with a steep discount). I love the idea of the drains in the racers, since in the hot weather, we’re always dumping tons of water over our head, or running through sprinklers. The Kona’s had that unique quick strap securing method, although they were missing the heel pull strap. I have been wearing nikes for everything, but always found Adi’s comfortable too. I currently wear the Vomero’s, any recommendation as to what the “equal” shoe would be in the Adidas stable? And whatabout a racer in the 7 oz range, as I’ve realized my body can no longer take the ultra-lite racers.
The supernova cushion probably would be a good complement to the vomero, as both are neutral cushion trainers. And take a look at the Adizero Adios for a racing flat, it’s around 7.4 oz and Haile Gebrselassie wore it when he broke his own world record in the marathon, so you know it can go fast.
dave, if you’re still monitoring the forum, you might note that we’ve just updated our write-ups, changing pretty much just what’s new for 2010. it’s all on the front page. i’m interested in a few things:
is there an adidas person on the planet who might stand in your stead and talk to our readers about these shoes going forward? you can email or PM me if you want.
how is what you’re doing now at zoot similar or different than what it is adidas has going with its adizero line?
anything else you want to say about the adidas line is fine with me.
I’ll ask around the adidas folks and find that contact for you.
adizero is the most pure runners running line on the planet. The attention to detail, construction, put nothing on the shoe that shouldn’t be there mentality and pure light weight puts adizero above the other big brands. A bit tough to find all shoes.
Zoot - Without trying to copy anyone I think you are right in asking. The Zoot line is taking a similar approach to all things running shoes. Attention to detail in construction, pull stuff off the shoes that shouldn’t be there. Expose all the “technology”. Use less glue. Bring fit into the equation because it’s 50% of how a shoe functions. Use high grade materials. All this adds up to things like the Ultra Speed with 6.7oz of shoe that feels like something on your foot. Doing 6.7oz is easy. Getting to to feel like you’re running on shoe not cardboard is hard.
adidas - In Spring 2009 I put countless miles in the 2010 adizero Boston. I still have 3 pairs in my Garage. That is the sweetest shoe in their entire line. Shoes like that drive all of us in the market to do things better.
the last pair of adidas i ran in was the rotterdam, and, this was an iteration of the shoe prior to its final form. it was white with orange accents. i used it as my racing flat, tho it was a lightweight trainer, really. cid cardoso turned me onto it (inside out sports). then the shoe changed its concept and i moved over to an asics lightweight trainer as my racing flat.
as you know, i’m a 170 pounder, an overpronator, and, i can’t run in neutral or overly minimalist shoes. as i note the weights of these adizero shoes, there’s one that’s on the 9oz range, everything else seems in the 7oz range so is unusable to somebody like me. but then i would race in a 9oz shoe, and train in an 11oz shoe. do you think the adizero line has utility for the 160 and 170 pound triathletes? and, do you think zoot will likewise offer a medial posted, nice fitting, sprightly 9oz or 10oz shoe that i might like? i ask because i’m not atypical of those in this sport. you’ve run with tinley probably, what, a thousand times? you’ll remember he was high-arched, needed a medially posted shoe (whether he realized it or not). there are a lot of us in that weight, with that sort of runner profile.
adizero is the most pure runners running line on the planet. The attention to detail, construction, put nothing on the shoe that shouldn’t be there mentality and pure light weight puts adizero above the other big brands.
Yes, Adidas is doing great recently. But “best on planet”? What about the breakthrough Nike Lunaracer?
All this adds up to things like the Ultra Speed with 6.7oz of shoe that feels like something on your foot. Doing 6.7oz is easy. Getting to to feel like you’re running on shoe not cardboard is hard.
Didn’t Nike achieve this with the Lunaracer at more than an oz less?
