Mine is about dead even atm but I feel like I’ve lost a stack of power versus about 15mm back (trainerroad.com rides agree; down about ~10 watts).
Your experience(s)? Can the power be made up once I adjust a bit more?
bump…
My bike is slack and I want to ride way forward so my Adamo is at the end of the rails.
So the plumb says dead even.
power, i feel stronger and faster the further forward i get.
not PM though, so its just my gut.
-5cm in “TT mode”, -14.5cm in “road bike mode”.
I am glad you just posted this…I just bought a Race2 saddle and put in on my bike this week and have spent a while tooling around with it. I find the saddle comfortable wherever I put it, but realized that it was behind the BB on my bike quite a bit and keep moving it forward to get my hips/sit bone over it. Is this what I should be trying to accomplish? I feel that the seat is real close to the end of the rails when I do this though, I would assume that is fine as long as I do not go pass that max line?
I would say right now I am about 5 cm behind the BB.
Wow! 14.5cm…I think I’d be sitting on my rear hub. How tall/what frame size is that on?
Mine is about 3.5cm back. Still working on position, though, so no datapoints yet. I just got it…
Based on this article by Slowman, with the saddle nose in line with the BB (centre of saddle rails about 13cm back) that gives me a seat angle of 79 degrees. I’ve moved it back 10mm and I’ll see what happens on my next ride. My Adamo Breakaway appears a touch longer than the Road, maybe 25mm longer?
Tom A., at 5.5cm back what kind of seat angle does that give you?
UCI rules- front of nose has to be 5cm behind bb. Adamo gives you among the best positions within these rules because it is noseless.
Wow! 14.5cm…I think I’d be sitting on my rear hub. How tall/what frame size is that on?
It was that way on my 2002 58 Soloist, and it’s that way now on my brand new S5.
I think you might be confused since it’s an Adamo. There’s 6-7cm “missing” from the nose. For example, if I were to replace it with the Specialized Toupe saddle I had on there before, it’s nose would only be 7.5cm behind the BB.
Based on this article by Slowman, with the saddle nose in line with the BB (centre of saddle rails about 13cm back) that gives me a seat angle of 79 degrees. I’ve moved it back 10mm and I’ll see what happens on my next ride. My Adamo Breakaway appears a touch longer than the Road, maybe 25mm longer?
Tom A., at 5.5cm back what kind of seat angle does that give you?
I don’t know. Define “seat angle”…
Seriously, it seems like everyone defines it differently, and I’m not really sure if I agree with Slowman’s “method” of measuring to the center of the rails, since different seats have the rails in different spots relative to where you sit on them (especially ones like the Adamo models).
~5.5cm behind, so as to have a ‘legal’ position. That makes it feel pretty natural switching from road to tt bike. Power is pretty close for both bikes / positions.
I ride with different saddles on several different bikes. Every now and then I have to slap on an Adamo so I can be UCI-legal for time trialing and I’ve found that the best formula for me to get it right is to set the BACK of my adamo where the BACK of whatever other saddle I was using would have been.
At the least, that’s a simple and effective starting point.
I’m 10mm ahead of my BB.
- 4.5cm with the TT version but feel as though it could come back a tad.
4.5 cm in front of bb
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I was actually wondering this myself, I got a new base bar and semi integrated aero bars, switched from straight extensions to ski bends and have been toying with everything else.
I had my seat at about 1 cm in front of BB, but I moved it back to 1 cm behind it. I was actually going through and looking at kona bike pics last week, and it seemed like quiet a few of the pro’s had the nose way back. A few of the bikes the mount was either slid all the way back or in the rear hole depending on what kind of post it was, then slid all the way back on the rails. It got me to wondering if perhaps I was too far forward with my slider all the way forward, and rail as far forward as it says to go. I know you can’t go based off what other people are doing and everyone is different though.
I think I’m going to mess with it some more and perhaps try the 5 cm behind thing to see how it feels, I wont be needing to meet UCI rules anytime soon, but just to see how it feels. Last year I put in 800 miles ( i know not a lot compared to most) with it all the way forward and was fine. Ended up going 18.5 in my HIM and 20.6 on a 19 mile course a week later and those have been my best. Started out barley making it home on a 13 mile ride @ 13.5 mph 1 year earlier when I decided to give triathlon a try.
Dude, I love the enthusiasm. That’s impressive progress in a year.
I think I heard during an interview that Crowies seat was 2.5 cm in front of the bb for 2011 kona.
I played around with this a lot. Seat up, down, back forward.
I have settled with it 7.2 cm behind the BB. Nose is tilted down … Not so much that I slide forward putting too much weight on my arms, but just enough so that there is a great big sweet spot on the seat.
I can ride for hours without getting out of aero, on consecutive days - no chafing, no saddle sores, no bruising, all because of this seat. And the position is more powerful than anything I can achieve on my road bike, so I think it’s right.