Accelerade... what's the protein for?

I posted this a long while back and I’ll ask again:

Protein useless…
http://tinyurl.com/omhvd
or not…
http://tinyurl.com/qeelw

So is the protein in Accelerade to aide fluid retention (is that a good thing?) or to improve “energy”?

Its to give you the poops around mile 130 to take your mind off the pain!

Point is to improve the marketing literature. Bonus is that if you leave it out too long, it spoils, so you have to buy more sooner.

It gives it that awful taste that makes you leave the two bottles of it in the special needs bag.

Seriously, nutrition is a personal thing. Some train with it and love it, for me it’s Cytomax or nothing.

Dave Scott used to promote it, Isn’t that everything!
I wonder if he ever tried it in a race?
I used it at IM Az, I never had a ride like that before!
Actually, it never bothered me in training. But my endurance didn’t increase by 29% either.

the protein is just a side benefit.
they were trying to get the chalkiest taste they could, and protein wound up being the answer.

They claim it’s to aid pass through and recovery.

I got a big can of that stuff a few years ago and it made me sick. I tried it a again a few years later while on a century ride with the same results.

This is the only sports drink that has made me double over with belly cramps and have to hope, no pray, to god that I don’t get a muddy buddy right then and there.

I’m actually experimenting with Accelerade mixed with Cytomax for my Ironman Nutrition, 2 scoops of accelerade with 4 scoops of cytomax per bottle, makes 700 calories. So far so good, but I haven’t tried it at race intensity yet. I used to use metabol endurance but the Accelerade goes down a lot easier.

MC

it is a marketing lie like everything else…watch their TV ads:

-29% better than your “current” sports drink (what frigg’in sport drink are they talking about…cow piss?)
-then a couple barbell bodies from gold’s gym run by like they were about to break the world marathon record
-and of course there must be black, hispanic, 5th ave fashion model, and some towel wrap muslim drinking the stuff…

Pretty sure it’s there to promote GI distress.

I got two free cans of it this year and didn’t try it until last weekend. I was doing a 3 hour ride (on the CT) and I mixed it up double strength (so I wouldn’t have to hop off the bike as often) and figured I would just take some extra water with each sip to keep the concentration down. I thought it tasted fine, so I refilled once and this was my only source of calories for my 3 hour ride. Unlike many others, I had no GI problems, did a 50 minute run afterward and was completely fine. It’s also worth noting, that ride was the longest I’ve done all season, and only my second longest workout, when counting my ill-advised half-ironman in June. Everyone’s body is different, apparently it doesn’t mess me up.

i had never used it in a race, just on long training rides until this past weekend…

i used it this past weekend at the Chattanooga Waterfront and had the worst race of my life, stomach became really unsettled on the bike, and couldnt run more than 100 feet at a time without bending over from the stomach pains. i threw up a couple of times and went home to nap it off. i did however use a scoop and a half instead of a scoop but i dont think i will use with any intesity

however i have used Accelerade for a year and on all my long endurance training rides and had never had an issue and it got me home plenty of times, until this past weekends race

Dude…come on’…what do you think the protein is for?? Protein is the basic building block of________. I know you can fill in that blank. Also, it aids in muscular recovery. Accelerade is not just for cyclists and runners. It is an added benefit that you can’t find in Gatorade or Cytomax.

There are a few links in this thread about Accelerade, Gatorade and protein.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=297951;search_string=jaretj%20protein;#297951

jaretj

** **Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2006 Aug;38(8):1476-83.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/corehtml/query/egifs/http:--www.lwwonline.com-pt-pt-core-template-journal-lwwgateway-images-pmlogo.gif Links Comment in: Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2007 Mar;39(3):573. Failure of protein to improve time trial performance when added to a sports drink. van Essen M, Gibala MJ.
Exercise Metabolism Research Group, Department of Kinesiology, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
INTRODUCTION: Recent studies have reported that adding approximately 2% protein to a carbohydrate sports drink increased cycle endurance capacity compared with carbohydrate alone. However, the practical implications of these studies work are hampered by the following limitations: (a) the rate of carbohydrate ingestion was less than what is considered optimal for endurance performance, and (b) the performance test (exercise time to fatigue) did not mimic the way in which athletes typically compete (i.e., a race in which a fixed distance or set amount of work is performed as quickly as possible). PURPOSE: We tested the hypothesis that adding 2% protein to a 6% carbohydrate drink (CHO-PRO) would improve 80-km cycling time trial performance, as compared with a 6% carbohydrate drink (CHO) and a nonenergetic sweetened placebo (PLAC). METHODS: Ten trained male cyclists (24 +/- 2 yr; VO2peak = 63 +/- 2 mL.kg(-1).min(-1); mean +/- SE) performed an 80-km laboratory time trial (TT) on three occasions separated by 7 d. In a double-blind crossover manner, subjects ingested CHO-PRO, CHO, or PLAC at a rate of 250 mL every 15 min with no temporal, verbal, or physiological feedback. RESULTS: Time to complete the TT was 4.4% lower (P < 0.002) during CHO (135 +/- 9 min) and CHO-PRO (135 +/- 9) compared with PLAC (141 +/- 10), with no difference between CHO and CHO-PRO (P = 0.92). CONCLUSION: Ingesting 6% carbohydrate at a rate of 1 L.h(-1) (60 g.h(-1)) improved an 80-km TT performance in trained male cyclists. However, adding 2% protein to a 6% carbohydrate drink provided no additional performance benefit during a task that closely simulated the manner in which athletes typically compete.
PMID: 16888462

Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2004 Jul;36(7):1233-8.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/corehtml/query/egifs/http:--www.lwwonline.com-pt-pt-core-template-journal-lwwgateway-images-pmlogo.gif Links Comment in: Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2005 Jan;37(1):166; author reply 167. Effects of a carbohydrate-protein beverage on cycling endurance and muscle damage. Saunders MJ, Kane MD, Todd MK.
School of Kinesiology and Recreation Studies, James Madison University, Harrisonburg, VA 22807, USA. saundemj@jmu.edu
INTRODUCTION: The purpose of this study was to determine whether endurance cycling performance and postexercise muscle damage were altered when consuming a carbohydrate and protein beverage (CHO+P; 7.3% and 1.8% concentrations) versus a carbohydrate-only (CHO; 7.3%) beverage. METHODS: Fifteen male cyclists (mean (.-)VO(2peak) = 52.6 +/- 10.3 mL x kg x min) rode a cycle ergometer at 75% (.-)VO(2peak) to volitional exhaustion, followed 12 - 15 h later by a second ride to exhaustion at 85% (.-)VO(2peak). Subjects consumed 1.8 mL x kg BW of randomly assigned CHO or CHO+P beverage every 15 min of exercise, and 10 mL x kg BW immediately after exercise. Beverages were matched for carbohydrate content, resulting in 20% lower total caloric content per administration of CHO beverage. Subjects were blinded to treatment beverage and repeated the same protocol seven to 14 d later with the other beverage. RESULTS: In the first ride (75% (.-)VO(2peak)), subjects rode 29% longer (P < 0.05) when consuming the CHO+P beverage (106.3 +/- 45.2 min) than the CHO beverage (82.3 +/- 32.6 min). In the second ride (85% (.-)VO(2peak)), subjects performed 40% longer when consuming the CHO+P beverage (43.6 +/- 12.5 min) than when consuming the CHO beverage (31.2 +/- 8.7 min). Peak postexercise plasma CPK levels, indicative of muscle damage, were 83% lower after the CHO+P trial (216.3 +/- 122.0 U x L) than the CHO trial (1318.1 +/- 1935.6 U x L). There were no significant differences in exercising levels of (.-)VO(2), ventilation, heart rate, RPE, blood glucose, or blood lactate between treatments in either trial. CONCLUSION: A carbohydrate beverage with additional protein calories produced significant improvements in time to fatigue and reductions in muscle damage in endurance athletes. Further research is necessary to determine whether these effects were the result of higher total caloric content of the CHO+P beverage or due to specific protein-mediated mechanisms.

http://www.tri-ihp.com/articles/article_detail.php?ArticleID=13
http://www.tri-ihp.com/upload_files/Postexercise_protein_supplementation-Flakoll_2003.pdf

Check out these two!

For a bloated stomach and a future appointment with the side of the road.

Take Accelerade powder, put it in a blender, mix it, put it in a cycling bottle, close the lid and wait.

BOOOOM.

Read the label. The second ingredient is SUGAR!!!
I hope all my competitiors use it.

~ AB ~

I am pretty good friends with an Accelerade rep down here and he has given me tons of product to use. I was getting all set to train/race for it for IMAZ when I sat down and decided to re-think my nutrition about 3mo out.

I was planning on using all Accelerade products, drink and gel for my race. I counted all the protein I would be taking in and it came to almost 240g of protein. That is more that I use in 3 days. Needless to say, I didn’t use any of it for IMAZ.

i have used Accelerade in some races after and never really had any problems with it. It is a little tough to drink warm though

I second that. I wonder why people use the stuff when its 90+% sugar (or sucrose as they call it on the label).