Please, please, unless you do this for purely entertainment value (not sure if it would be for your entertainment or for mine), if you post these type of threads (and expect to get even faintly useful advice), could you all not take photos of yourself in parachute-like loose-fitting clothes!
What is the point? There is no way a viewer can tell anything about rider body position by looking at photo of a person perched on a bike dressed in a potato sack. Unless, of course, we are evaluating your fashion sense.
Well, as our unfortunate knucklehead in the white house says, “Bring it on!”
(But note, I did not say, ‘don’t post fit photos of oneself in loose fitting clothes’. I said, 'don’t post fit photos of oneself in loose fitting clothes if one expects to get any useful advice. Big difference. Enough said.)
How about, if you’re a guy, don’t post “Check my position!” pic at all. There’s plenty of those already. Do a forum search.
The women, however, are arguably underserved. Please, for the sake of rigorous scientific analysis, take many pictures, from all angles, on the highest possible resolution setting, in the thinnest, tightest clothing possible. Please.
The women, however, are arguably underserved. Please, for the sake of rigorous scientific analysis, take many pictures, from all angles, on the highest possible resolution setting, in the thinnest, tightest clothing possible. Please.
And be sure to get some from the front, so we can check the distance between your forearms on the aerobars.
Why do you think I am getting rid of Samantha? I can’t be paid to ride with a front end set up like that. The amount of spacers maximum is like 20mm for a carbon steerer (average according to fork mfrs.). There is no friggin’ way.
I keep coming back to this, because there seems to be a complete disconnect going on.
The fork manufacturers say the safe limit is X.
I see all kinds of people set up on bikes with way more than safe limit X of stack height.
Who sets these people up on these bikes like this?
Who selects, these bikes/frames for these people?
Who is influencing these people to have their bikes fit/set-up in this manner?
For frame designers - if so many people are riding like this, then why have the super low front ends? Or do we have it backwards?
Curious?
Part of the answer to all of the above, lies in the fact that the equipment that the very top people ride is accessable to all. This is a good thing, but not all people can ride the same set up as the top people. Many would not be able to fit into nor find Michael Schumachers F1 Car very comfortable. However, in that sport, no one other than MS, drives that car. It’s completely proprietory.
I think you answered your questions in your paragraph below your questions.
I was able to ride Samantha within the safe limits of forks. But not any more. My back has gotten very bad in the last three years, my neck is even worse. I can’t get any relief from exercises (and I am thinking that the chiro ain’t helping). It is just part of age for me, as well.
What it comes down to is that many AG-ers have better bikes than the pros sometimes ride, if you can believe that. But the AG bikes are better for the pros than the AG-ers. Just like when someone had said that the nickel rider doesn’t need Dugast tubs, the AGE-er needs a bike like the Cervelo One or QR Trueno, not the Tiphoon or the P3C.
Yep, Dan points out in his FIST clinics that not all triathletes are able to handle a classic tri-bike fit. The picture is a good example of a position with a larger than “nominal” hip angle due to the height of the cockpit. My bet would be that the rider just isn’t comfortable with a steep angle fit, which could be due to a number of factors – ie, wants to keep his head fully elevated all of the time, has back/neck problems, doesn’t have a good seat for the position, or just new to aerobars. All that said, a proper bike fit done by a knowledgable triathlon bike fitter would result in a comfortable bike fit with a stem that doesn’t have an unsafe number of spacers.
