Since my runs go over snow covered trails, packed snow & ice as well as bare pavement, finding the right combination was a little trial and error.
I use Wigwam wool ski socks, Salomon XCR trail shoes, short gaiter, and Yaktrax (mini-chains). I found that the Basegear spikes didn’t work worth a shit on bare pavement where the Yaktrax work good on any surface.
“It is never too late to fix your childhood!” Tom Robbins
I’ll wear my Asics 2090s with the same socks I wear in the summer when I go running either later today or very very early tomorrow morning. Never had too much trouble with my feet getting cold.
I ran into a couple guys running the other morning, and I’m pretty sure from the sound of it that one had those ice gripping things on his shoes. They sort of sounded like the studs they used to put in tires sounded.
Nike Air Pegasus for warm weather training and Nike Air Storm with a little scotchgard for cold(bad)weather training. I got a pair of Ice Joggers a few years ago to use on the occasional time we get ice. The work pretty well.
Just got to Toronto last night from Los Angeles and did my 2 hour run today in the same shoes and socks I would wear back in Cali. Its everything else that I worry about keeping warm. Even when I still lived up here I never did anything special for my feet during the winter and never had problems with cold. The worst weather is when it hovers around freezing and gets all slushy, that when your feet get coldest.
I’'m enjoying having a white Christmas with my family but am looking forward to my hundred mile ride next weekend in the 70 degree Cali weather
On dry pavement, it is not bad at all. Clearly it is not wise to take super sharp turns at high speeds on very smooth concrete or asphalt without snow or ice. But it really is not too bad if you keep most (not all) of the screws near (approx 1 cm, + -) the edge of the outsole. Enough outsole rubber reaches the pavement to give you quite adequate traction. Traction on dirt, trails, woodchips, etc. is 100% normal.
And the traction on immensely slippery ice or re-frozen snow is truly unreal.
(That said, you must be very, very careful on some smooth and hard indoor surfaces like tile or linoleum. There you can really take a spill easily with this set up.)
Also, I use ATB tires (nokian) with studs on the entire tread. I ride on snow-free dirt completely normally, and mostly avoid asphalt but ride gently on asphalt when I must (with these specific tires).
Nice try Tom, but I don’t see no pic of no snow. I know you have a camera, so if there was snow, you would post a pic for us folks in Florida, with the A/C on.
I’m in Winnipeg Canada at the balmy temp of –32 plus whatever the freeking wind chill is.
All I have ever worn is regular shoes with perhaps a bit heavier sock. Maybe it doesn’t bother me because I am too worried about the imminent frost bite on my fingers , nose etc.
What you really have to watch out for is how you dress your groin area for sure don’t forget a little extra down there or you’ll be sorry.
I have a pair of winter running shose called Icebugs. They are water proof and some what insulated, but the best part is that the bottom treads actually have 1/8th inch metal and plastic/rubber studs. they remind me of the old time car snow tires. these things are GREAT in snow/ice. I only use the shoes a couple times a year, but they are fantastic.
I bought them on line and don’t remember where, campmor or rei possibly, they are made ion ome of the scandnavian countries.
I was in Santa Fe over Thanksgiving where it snowed about a foot our first night in. Went to my sister’s running store (Shameless plug: The Running Hut http://www.runsantafe.com/) and bought some closeout shoes, Mizuno Trail. She took my wife and I up to some single track trail - somewhere along the way to the local ski area. The shoes did great! Running in the wilderness in snow that crunches down a couple of inches is awesome! Did about six miles and at 7000 ft, didn’t even notice becuase I was in awe of the scenery and the silence only broken by my breathing and crunching snow. My sister held back to allow me to hang with her. She’s a TNT coach and, at 50 years old, she ran St. George Marathon in 3:10.
She’s sold on Mizunos. I must say they’re quite light for the amount of cushioning they provide and if they fit you, they’re Nirvana (The name of their next model, btw.) I think any trail shoe, on their first few times out in the snow are somewhat waterproof, as mine are. Alas, I’m in Southern California and we have no local conditions to test the shoes for true winter running - 70 degrees clear and sunny today.
I live in Maine so we always have snow and cold. I only run in normal running shoes with normal socks. Until recently I never wore sock either, just started recently due to the smell of the shoes. I really don’t see why anyone would need winter shoes unless they are running “off the beaten path,” and beyond that, I would caution running in areas where you would really benefit from the bulky uppers on the winter specific shoes due to high potential for injury while actually running through snow. However, in the rare instance (two or three times a year) where I do run on snowmobile trails (i.e. when the roads are so slick I worry about a car hitting me) I run in a shoe called the “Icebug.” It has a weatherproof upper and studs . . . quite a shoes, but too bulky to really run much in.