4yr ban for Shelby Houlihan

Triathlon Forum
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But how is a runner in a low profile, un-sanctioned race going to know if a banned athlete is on the start list?

One can’t know for sure, so one would just assume that a banned runner wouldn’t be “dumb enough” to actually try to get into a race, even a non-sanctioned one

Next thing you know we’ll have banned athletes at the starting line with wigs or fake mustaches or even luchadore masks
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The letsrun take is hilarious as usual. Most of the scandal is that she only ran 1:16. Which on that forum is “tempo pace.”

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Shelby was secretly working out with team…
https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2022/09/06/shelby-houlihan-olympics-doping-ban-burrito-drug-test-asu-runner/.

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That’s very cringe worthy in so many accounts.

  • DeBues-Stafford was concerned that Houlihan was working out “under the guidance of” the three BTC coaches (Schumacher, Shalane Flanagan and Pascal Dobert) at the same location and times that other BTC athletes were working out while under the supervision of the same coaches.*
    “While we never did a rep together, there was still what felt to me like an unnecessarily risky proximity between both men’s and women’s teams and an athlete serving a ban,” DeBues-Stafford said.
    “Shelby would drive to the Nike campus up to four times a week at the team’s regular time and the starting point for our regular daily runs together so she could run with us,” DeBues-Stafford said. “If she arrived before us, she would wait for BTC athletes at the meeting spot to see if any BTC athletes arrived so she could run with us. These sometimes included long runs. She also ran with the team on a regular basis at altitude camp in Flagstaff.”
    Houlihan said she and her attorney inquired about the rules of her ban and were told that she couldn’t go to any practices or work out with anyone on the team, but if she happened to bump into them and they were running at the same place, then she could run with them.
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But she would never do something so dishonest as lie about eating uncastrated boar offal…

Also, if a banned athlete was showing up for practice with a team I was on, I would definitely make a stink about it with the team management. I wonder what’s going on with the BTC athletes and if they are cool with this.

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I find that the fault completely on the team/coach/management that “allows” that kinda of run around of the rules, that could then put the others in an uncomfortable position like that.

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I find that the fault completely on the team/coach/management that “allows” that kinda of run around of the rules

Agree. I’m done trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. This is just trying to milk every last inch of the gray area that allows occasional, incidental close presence in training. And, in my perception, veers clearly outside anything gray into pure black. Showing up in Flagstaff at the same time as the team is ridiculous.

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*Houlihan said she and her attorney inquired about the rules of her ban and were told that she couldn’t go to any practices or work out with anyone on the team, but if **she happened to bump into them *and they were running at the same place, then she could run with them.

RADAR: Major Burns is sorry he can’t keep his date with you tonight.
MARGARET: Date?! Uh, I have no date with Major Burns, we’re just acquaintences… we DO run into each other once in a while…
RADAR: Well he can’t run into you tonight.

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Considering that the team practices on a regular schedule, “running into them” can’t be that hard. It unfortunately shows where the team’s ethical compass is at.

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Shelby was secretly working out with team…
https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2022/09/06/shelby-houlihan-olympics-doping-ban-burrito-drug-test-asu-runner/

The writer is putting a bunch of intellectually dishonest stuff in this fluff piece. What’s worse is the quotes from the current BTC group in “support” of her.

I also don’t get the vibe that Nike cut her either.

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Back competing after serving her ban.
This video doesn’t seem to hold Let’sRun’s take on the whole saga (well its lead chaps) in high esteem.