I read where this Brownlee kid ran that fast in Australia…are these 10K courses accurate? Lordy has this sport become a gazelle track meet. I mean even if the course is a bit short these guys must be stroking sub 5’s…my quads and lungs are burning just reading about it whew.
I was thinking the same, sounds almost “too” fast to be a 10K tri-run.
/CE
Brownlee ran a 29.20 in a 10k road race (accurate) in manchester, early season this year.
So even if the course in Oz was short, be under no illusions, the kid can run!!
sub-5s? are you kidding? a 31:12 is about 5 min/mile pace. They are way faster than that.
CAn’t see why every time he hammers out these times the course lenght is brought up, okay maybe it was short once, but every time, anyhow it does not matter he is the best runner in triathlon period.
Why do you put all those #'s in your post?
This is why it’s the olympic version of the sport, these are extremely phenomenal athletes. In some conditions, they might pull off a 15 minute swim as well. Unlike most USA draft-legal athletes, they’ve been training for triathlon, and just triathlon, their whole lives (I’ve heard of triathlon being a high-school sport in AUS). When the rest of Brownlee’s generation catches up, watch for some other freaks.
Those are awesome times, but even more fearsome are the marathon world record times. Granted, they’re not triguys, but holy crap those are ridiculous.
Yea as usual, once a record goes up, more people start shooting at it and before you know it the sport goes ballistic!
Although ITU draft racing puts me to sleep to watch, I do give props to the amazing athletes. I mean WOW.
It’s not that we doubt the guys ability to run. The fact is way too many ITU races distances end up being short. The run was short, they didn’t run 29:04.
Pretty amazing run, even if it was a minute short. Sounds like GOmez was attacking most the way, but as usual, he has nothing for a final sprint. Must be frustrating for Gomez now that there are a handfull of guys that he just cannot shake, and they can all outsprint him. And every race it seems to be a different guy. Brownlee is the real deal for ITU though, if he holds it together mentally, he could have a nice long career there…
And be fun to see him in about 3 or 4 years do a few non drafting 1/2’s. But he is just too good right now at ITU to think about that yet, ride the wave…
all accounts are that the course was exact. We’ve been putting pressure on them to measure the run course accurately. Before the race there was a fair bit of discussion amongst the coaches that the course was indeed accurate with quite a few coaches out measuring it.
That was the fastest run I’ve ever seen. period. 29:05. (that’s still well over a km behind the world record).
legit 10k. amazing performance.
Simon
even though you weren’t there, you’re totally right. Besides, it’s not as if any of the pros who were there will log on here and prove you wrong.
That would be great if the course was accurate, we really need some offical certification body for out big races. It really is not that hard…
I always thought that on a really good day, someone could run within 45 seconds of their stand alone PR on a non drafting course. I had in my mind that it could be as little as 15 seconds in the right drafting situation. But honestly, no reason that if the bike was not a killer, that some guy could actually do his PR in a tri, it’s just that it sounded like Brownlee did not have the easiest of times on the bike. Perhaps he will be the first legit guy to run a sub 29 10k stand alone during an actual tri seasons training…That would be huge…
That would be one hell of a run if it’s accurate. That’s less than 2 minutes off the best white 10k runners and only 2:45s off the world record. Which are all on the track, not to mention they only run and don’t swim and bike before hand. I just don’t see the course being accurate, it would be a hell of a thing if it was and I’d be as excited as anyone else. As of now, I’ll keep my doubts. Still out running a inshape Gomez is fantastic for him. That kid is something else.
They reckoned at the Pro Briefing that the course had been measured by the IAAF and was exactly 10 km, but that’s been claimed before I guess.
Whatever - that run was amazing. I thought Gomez was fabulous, totally not intimidated by the hype around Brownlee at the mo, to see him surge and surge and surge was amazing. Anybody that says ITU racing is boring just has no appreciation of the work it takes to get to that level and be able to race like those two guys did yesterday.
i don’t know. new computer> weird though.
Paul T also said he thought the course was legit. You really think 2 mins. off the fastest “white” 10k runners is suspect enough to question the course? 2 mins is a pretty big gap.
Did you see the distance those two had on Frodeno though, who is definitely capable of putting out a 30 flat.
Simon, go ride it tomorrow with your SRM, and silence the critics.
I was there racing AG worlds and watched the race in the afternoon. The course is legit, and if you look at the women’s and U23 you’ll notice the run times are about right, AB and Gomez really did run that fast. The TV just doesn’t do it justice how fast those 2 were running. Sensational effort
all accounts are that the course was exact. We’ve been putting pressure on them to measure the run course accurately. Before the race there was a fair bit of discussion amongst the coaches that the course was indeed accurate with quite a few coaches out measuring it.
That was the fastest run I’ve ever seen. period. 29:05. (that’s still well over a km behind the world record).
legit 10k. amazing performance.
Simon
It actually would only be 2:04, which is quite a bit under a kilometer - behind the World Record (it’s a 10km, not a 10,000m) – 27:01 set by Micah Kogo.
I also don’t think you ought to look at the winner’s time to see if the run course is short. You look at the middle of the pack guys. And you look at the women. The women’s times suggest the course definitely was accurate.
Be interesting to know how they measured it - with a measuring wheel or with GPS or with bikes or some other way - and along what line.
Gomez commented on the BBC coverage that he thought it was his best ever race even though he came 2nd which suggests he felt it was his quickest run.