For sure. The mech ultegra only appealed to me as a foundation for further upgrades… and at that point i would just get a frame. The ultegra di2 build sold me because it came with decent wheels that i could train on, or even compete with. The reynolds series 1 hubs are an unknown quantity, but i suspect they are entry level down-spec to keep oem prices in check.
The force build was a bit of a disappointment. Force is heavier than ultegra di2, but did have nicer hydraulic brakes (balancing the overall weight). But the cranks are longer in the force build. My lbs confirmed with the distributer that it was not an error. The 51 has a 170mm crank with force, vs 165 for every other ia in that size. Made zero sense.
And for me, the force build was 1500$ cad more than the di2 build. More expensive brakes sure, and trendy new 12 speed wireless, but having to immediately swap the crank was a deal-breaker.
The bayonet 3.1 and dagger stem look good. They have toned it down and it just looks clean.
Agreed on the reason for the longer force crank. But it was a swing and a miss for me. Although my gravel bike would be perfect for that crank… i would just need a new bb.
the best part for me is that their is added reach w/ the dagger stem. The bikes run tall and short w/ the integrated stubby stem from 2019. A lot more people who like to get long and low will be able to do it without swapping parts now
Felt just recently added the IA10 frameset back to their website, but they didn’t put an “add to cart†button. I messaged Felt and they said the 2018 IA10 is in stock but they 2019 isn’t yet.
They also said the only difference is the “textreme layer†added to the 2019. But is that suggesting there’s the same claimed 1.3lb weight difference from 2018 to 2019?
ETA: Felt replied and said the weight difference was negligible.
Every time I have a fit client with an IA they have to go buy the Dagger
the best part for me is that their is added reach w/ the dagger stem. The bikes run tall and short w/ the integrated stubby stem from 2019. A lot more people who like to get long and low will be able to do it without swapping parts now
nope. Aso f this writing, there are photos out there under publication ban, but the only photos on that thread of AR’s are a 2017 rim brake AR, and a digital schematic of the ar disc from the felt catalogue (which may or may not represent the actual 2020 bike) that I posted.
Hmm. That actually falls in at a decent pricepoint compared to the Speedmax SLX 8.0. Basically trade a hydration system for disc brakes and $500 in your pocket. Not bad.
Yep I was all over skyscanner looking for flights from the UK to Denver (boulder, for Colorado multisport) to grab one of those and then I saw it had jumped by close to 20%, ruined my day!
Hmm. That actually falls in at a decent pricepoint compared to the Speedmax SLX 8.0. Basically trade a hydration system for disc brakes and $500 in your pocket. Not bad.
The ultegra di2 bike has been on the euro site for some time. I could have gotten it in canada for the same as 5200$ msrp (usd) + tax. I actually went for the force bike simply because it was in stock, and if I waited for the ultegra Di2, the Canadian season would be almost over by the time it was in my hands. it was a 900usd premium however (but I am enjoying the shit out of the force bike, so it is worth it. nothing is more painful then staring at a new bike, and having to wait 3-4mths to use it).
I was told early october for delivery in canada. I suspect di2 is cheaper because 11 speed is on the outs. Maybe us terrifs also… but the bike is made in taiwan. It also comes with proper crank lengths vs the force bike. I ordered 165mm cranks for my bike… the cost of wanting a bike 1 month sooner.
I have little comparison for ride, but mine is comparable to my road bike (felt f2) over the bumps. But i can drop the pressures and make it smooth as silk. Handling is fine for a beginner like me, and the bike feels more stable in the wind than my road bike too. Still wrapping my head around that.
How did you get the discount from LBS?
I am in Vancouver and many shops I checked do not want to give a penny. $1000 cad can be a deal breaker for me to upgrade to Felt IA Di2.
Hmm. That actually falls in at a decent pricepoint compared to the Speedmax SLX 8.0. Basically trade a hydration system for disc brakes and $500 in your pocket. Not bad.
The ultegra di2 bike has been on the euro site for some time. I could have gotten it in canada for the same as 5200$ msrp (usd) + tax. I actually went for the force bike simply because it was in stock, and if I waited for the ultegra Di2, the Canadian season would be almost over by the time it was in my hands. it was a 900usd premium however (but I am enjoying the shit out of the force bike, so it is worth it. nothing is more painful then staring at a new bike, and having to wait 3-4mths to use it).